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Offline LBW

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V 3.0 Wish list
« on: August 23, 2019, 03:48:05 AM »
Hi SMF developers

Please look into the following as a standard release:

> Hover over username >> gives user info summary
> Profile customization >> Allow for buddies to post comments/messages to your profile
> Profile customization >> Cover photo
 
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2019, 03:51:34 AM »
The profile area shown in each post really is a user info summary, albeit a bit limited in scope.
Profile comments, I've seen that in other software - personally, I don't understand the meaning of the function - but yeah, I can see someone wanting it.
Cover photo, quite honestly seems like something better suited for a modification. Again, this is just me personally - I can't speak for the whole team in this.
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2019, 04:04:27 AM »
Firstly, 3.0 is realistically years away. Secondly I don’t believe any of these are currently in line with the dev view of what SMF, a traditional forum software, should do.
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2019, 07:46:52 AM »
Quote from: Arantor on August 23, 2019, 04:04:27 AM
Firstly, 3.0 is realistically years away.
I was thinking the same thing. 2.1 was only just released and already there are requests for 3.0.
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2019, 08:27:06 AM »
2.1 isn’t even final yet.
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2019, 10:37:08 AM »
Quote from: Arantor on August 23, 2019, 08:27:06 AM
2.1 isn’t even final yet.

Based on past history with 2.0 how long will it probably be before 2.1 goes final (assuming it's similar timescales to 2.0)?
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2019, 10:39:38 AM »
Considering that 2.1 has blown past all of 2.0’s timescale (1.1 went final in 2006, 2.0 was started a few months before 1.1 went final, and 2.0 went final in 2011 making it around 5 years, while 2.1 is 8 years and counting)... I have no idea.

I remember estimating in 2012 that it’d be 2020, but I was joking :(
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2019, 03:59:05 PM »
Quote from: Arantor on August 23, 2019, 10:39:38 AM
2.1 is 8 years and counting

Why do you think it's taken so long? Just not enough people developing it these days? People splitting off and doing their own forks?
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2019, 04:08:10 PM »
There was a turmoil period within the team... and it takes a while after a period like that to catch your breath and start over.
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2019, 04:38:39 PM »
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on August 23, 2019, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: Arantor on August 23, 2019, 10:39:38 AM
2.1 is 8 years and counting

Why do you think it's taken so long? Just not enough people developing it these days? People splitting off and doing their own forks?

There have been, I think, 3 complete changeovers of dev team in that time. The way the initial 2.1 dev team left was... awkward.

But the single biggest problem, I think - one that has been a problem pretty much since 2006 or so is that there is a lack of vision about what it should be: if you don't know what it should be, because there's no single cohesive vision, it's hard to know when you get there.
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2019, 02:57:25 AM »
To add to my wish list >> As a standard >> to be able to quote highlighted text instead of quoting the entire post.
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2019, 03:37:54 AM »
That is far more realistic and I would be disappointed if that didn’t make it in.
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2019, 03:46:04 AM »
Quote from: LBW on August 30, 2019, 02:57:25 AM
To add to my wish list >> As a standard >> to be able to quote highlighted text instead of quoting the entire post.

Quote from: Arantor on August 30, 2019, 03:37:54 AM
That is far more realistic and I would be disappointed if that didn’t make it in.

It's already in 2.1 so I wouldn't expect they'd take it away.
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2019, 03:51:13 AM »
Actually,  enhancing that feature, I wish it would float the "Quote Highlighted Text" button right next to the text you're highlighting, instead of having to scroll all the way down to the bottom of a long post to click it like you do now in 2.1.  ;)
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2019, 04:05:19 AM »
When did that make it in? Because it wasn’t in 2.1 when I last checked...
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2019, 04:43:32 AM »
It's been there for a long time now
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2019, 05:00:18 AM »
Wasn’t there, or wasn’t working when I did a round of testing at RC1 stage. Haven’t tested RC2.
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2019, 05:55:54 AM »
Well looking at the git blame, it was added back in 2015, perhaps it just wasn't working when you tested and was fixed later.
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2019, 08:55:19 AM »
Quote from: Arantor on August 23, 2019, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: Jeff Lewis on August 23, 2019, 03:59:05 PM
Quote from: Arantor on August 23, 2019, 10:39:38 AM
2.1 is 8 years and counting

Why do you think it's taken so long? Just not enough people developing it these days? People splitting off and doing their own forks?

There have been, I think, 3 complete changeovers of dev team in that time. The way the initial 2.1 dev team left was... awkward.

But the single biggest problem, I think - one that has been a problem pretty much since 2006 or so is that there is a lack of vision about what it should be: if you don't know what it should be, because there's no single cohesive vision, it's hard to know when you get there.

To add to this, the code is also quite fragile and change sensitive. The lack of automated testing increases the change of regressions occuring.  This leads to a much slower development cycle.
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Re: V 3.0 Wish list
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2019, 02:20:22 PM »
Quote from: Arantor on August 23, 2019, 10:39:38 AM
Considering that 2.1 has blown past all of 2.0’s timescale (1.1 went final in 2006, 2.0 was started a few months before 1.1 went final, and 2.0 went final in 2011 making it around 5 years, while 2.1 is 8 years and counting)... I have no idea.

I remember estimating in 2012 that it’d be 2020, but I was joking :(

2030 at the earliest for 3.0 (if it ever comes out)?
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