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PAID: Global Ignore
« on: July 27, 2020, 09:43:51 AM »
My site is 99% guest activity. I have one "problem guest" who equates to Chicken Little with the corona virus. His comments are nothing but doom and gloom, we're all gonna die nonsense and it's become tiresome. I don't care what anybody else thinks about the mod, this is for my website. I do not want his posts to be seen by anybody, they serve no purpose whatsoever.

My budget is $50 USD. The request is for a global ignore function in the 2.0.17 ACP which IP addresses can be listed.

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2020, 10:44:08 AM »
 :laugh: so you want the user to be able to continue to post but not have anyone be able to see their posts

oh back in the day when I was a mod on a specific forum, we would have had so much fun with such a mod  :laugh:
we tended to ban each other (the staff) for a day just for fun, leaving funny notes on the ban and on a chat site I used to admin we would mute each other out of boredom :p

just curious why not just revoke their posting permissions, or put them on post approval?

I'm sure that there should be a way to run a db query to set all users to ignore that user

[edit]er......just re read, it is a guest not a registered member.....I am not sure that that is possible.....

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2020, 11:00:55 AM »
:laugh: so you want the user to be able to continue to post but not have anyone be able to see their posts

oh back in the day when I was a mod on a specific forum, we would have had so much fun with such a mod  :laugh:
we tended to ban each other (the staff) for a day just for fun, leaving funny notes on the ban and on a chat site I used to admin we would mute each other out of boredom :p

just curious why not just revoke their posting permissions, or put them on post approval?

I'm sure that there should be a way to run a db query to set all users to ignore that user

[edit]er......just re read, it is a guest not a registered member.....I am not sure that that is possible.....

Hi, my website is more or less parents of youth sports players. I allow guests to post anonymously so they don't have to share any kind of details which might tip off other parents, team coaches or managers to figure out who they are.

This particular mod is not something new, it was available for vBulletin years ago and can be adopted with a re-code for SMF. The actual name is called "Tachy Goes To Coventry". I used it on an old bulletin site from 2005 to 2012, the mod allowed either user names or IP addresses to be added to the list. When added, the PITA guest is still allowed to use the site and post, but all of their posts go into Global ignore, only they can see their own posts.

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2020, 11:41:14 AM »
Does the user have a consistent IP address? Does that overlap with anyone else? Because if either is even occasionally true, this ends really badly really quickly.

Also, this is actually a really complex job to do in SMF’s codebase to do it everywhere.

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2020, 11:48:39 AM »
Does the user have a consistent IP address? Does that overlap with anyone else? Because if either is even occasionally true, this ends really badly really quickly.

Also, this is actually a really complex job to do in SMF’s codebase to do it everywhere.

Hi Arantor, yes, same IP Address since 2018. I actually know who he is based on his overwhelming amount of posts, he's an executive with USA Hockey. He's easily the most annoying individual I've encountered in a forum in years.

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2020, 11:53:33 AM »
Ban the IP? Would be quicker than getting a mod written, no chance of user accidentally discovering it and won’t slow down your entire forum for the sake of one person (as global ignore must do)

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2020, 12:17:59 PM »
I prefer the ignoring approach then banning, you ban them they know they were banned and might decided to try working around the ban and then coming back even more toxic. On the other hand, having an option like the OP described would be more of a peaceful solution, the user might just get tired of feeling ignored and decide to completely stop posting.
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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2020, 12:21:55 PM »
That on,y holds up if there is *never* a chance they’ll find out. There’s a reason most forum software didn’t reimplement Tachy in the years since... it’s actually not helpful in most communities.

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2020, 01:33:00 PM »
I prefer the ignoring approach then banning, you ban them they know they were banned and might decided to try working around the ban and then coming back even more toxic. On the other hand, having an option like the OP described would be more of a peaceful solution, the user might just get tired of feeling ignored and decide to completely stop posting.

This guy doesn't quit. I'm using a mod which I bought outside of SMF called Miserable Users, another old vBulletin mod. This mod is very useful for those who do eventually give up. But, if you keep trying enough times you will eventually get back to the site, which is what this guy does. I don't want to ban him because I know he'll come back on a different device. I'd much rather let him post as he pleases, not knowing they're blocked. He's not smart enough to figure it out.

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2020, 02:16:10 PM »
I prefer the ignoring approach then banning, you ban them they know they were banned and might decided to try working around the ban and then coming back even more toxic. On the other hand, having an option like the OP described would be more of a peaceful solution, the user might just get tired of feeling ignored and decide to completely stop posting.

This guy doesn't quit. I'm using a mod which I bought outside of SMF called Miserable Users, another old vBulletin mod. This mod is very useful for those who do eventually give up. But, if you keep trying enough times you will eventually get back to the site, which is what this guy does. I don't want to ban him because I know he'll come back on a different device. I'd much rather let him post as he pleases, not knowing they're blocked. He's not smart enough to figure it out.

It is tricky to do this for guests based on their ip address(es), as they can very easily bypass it by using a vpn/proxy.

That being said, if that guy is a registered member, I have a mod that keeps track of users registering multiple accounts. It is very accurate.

https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=573611.0

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2020, 03:10:25 PM »
I have just over 200 members and none of them post. All of my posting activity is 100% guests.

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2020, 03:16:33 AM »
@njtweb have you tried a post ban?

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2020, 06:53:30 AM »
@njtweb have you tried a post ban?

Hello, I haven't heard of that or how to do it. Can you ban an IP?

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2020, 07:46:10 AM »
Yes... that’s why it was suggested earlier...

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2020, 08:04:30 AM »
I'm looking at the Ban article on SMF but don't see how to ban an IP from a post.

https://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/SMF2.0:Ban_list

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2020, 08:24:39 AM »
@njtweb have you tried a post ban?
I've looked everywhere in the ACP and googled banning and IP from SMF forum post. All I find is banning an IP entirely. I don't see anything that would suggest banning an IP from single posts.

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2020, 09:35:21 AM »
Copy the IP address from there and put it in the “add new ban” screen?

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2020, 09:52:21 AM »
Copy the IP address from there and put it in the “add new ban” screen?

But that's banning them from posting entirely, not specific posts. Going back to vBulletin years ago, there was a function where you could ban a member/guest from posting in specific topics/posts. If there were something like that here, I'd use it, but we're right back to where I would ultimately like to be, global ignore.

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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2020, 11:55:29 AM »
Do you just want the same behavior as SMF does with the ignore function? Or completely hide the post from all areas?
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Re: PAID: Global Ignore
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2020, 12:41:15 PM »
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But that's banning them from posting entirely, not specific posts.

You didn't specify specific topics. You made it quite clear you wanted to hide all their posts everywhere, in which case you might as well just stop them from posting and be done with it.

Do you just want the same behavior as SMF does with the ignore function? Or completely hide the post from all areas?

Completely hide from all areas, *except for the one IP address* who should see it. And hope the user never uses a mobile phone.