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Offline samdersb

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Future of Forums
« on: December 29, 2020, 08:50:11 PM »
Hi all,

I have been a huge fan of SMF forums for well over a decade now. I believe that this is a powerful software with lots of growth potential, with the right idea. With the prevalence of social media platforms such as Facebook and Twitter in the 2010's and no end to their growth in sight, what puts SMF above other social media platforms?

I love SMF and would still love to start my own community, but I can't but help to feel that the forum scene is quickly on the way out. Is it even worth considering starting one now? I feel as if one of the few benefits SMF has over the social media giants is the retro and nostalgic appeal. Has SMF made any efforts to modernize the software? I think it's a real shame that modern social media put the "nail in the coffin" for online communities. Could anyone share some hope and wisdom?

Thanks!


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Re: Future of Forums
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2020, 09:30:17 PM »
well except that social media and forums are really 2 different things

social media is more of a free for all with no organization....so while there may be some good posts made with good info, it's hard to find it among all the other posts since they are all lumped together....

whereas forums are organized into categories and subcategories

if you were looking for info on a topic do you search social media sites or forums/blogs/ect type sites?

each one has it's own place but they really are not the same thing....

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Re: Future of Forums
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2020, 01:40:13 AM »
Forums do have a lot of advantages over social media, but the use case is (at least meant to be) different and they can't really be compared like that.
2.1 does bring a lot of new goodies to the table though, if you are interested in seeing a "modernized" version of SMF, maybe take the 2.1 RC3 for a test drive?
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Re: Future of Forums
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2020, 02:07:48 AM »
I think it's more the "question & answer" sites like StackOverflow that have taken traffic away from forums, probably not for all subjects though

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Re: Future of Forums
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2020, 03:49:03 AM »
From my perspective, and as a forum admin for three technical forums, I believe forums are a much better platform/tool than social media for collecting and sharing technical information - especially if the image, PDF, etc attachments provided by those who contribute technical information are uploaded to and stored on the forum website (frustrates me no end to find a technical/how-to post where linked images formed a substantial part of the information and all I can see now is "Image Not Found" placeholders) - whereas social media sites are more suited to transient/in-the-moment content (eg, holiday photos or, heaven forbid, daily update photos of what someone had for breakfast, lunch, dinner etc).

The following is a link to what I believe is really pertinent information about the value businesses can gain from having a user community forum: 6 Reasons to Consider a Discussion Forum for Your Website
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Re: Future of Forums
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2020, 08:35:09 PM »
Everyone, thank you so much for the replies. The distinction between social medias and forums must be made, but what would drive someone to post on a forum, compared to a Facebook group, or a subreddit? I still am somewhat unconvinced that the conversation has not moved from forums to social media giants.

I have always considered creating my own forums and building my own community. To me, it felt like the explosion of social media platforms have sucked life away from user-owned community forums. I wish forums were still popular, but I just can't but help to feel as if the platform is a thing of the past (for the most part). However, I do feel optimistic for the future, with the current pressure on social media platforms to be more "platform" rather than "publisher." People are getting worried that Zuckerberg and Dorsey have too much influence and power and control the flow of information on their platforms too much.

Other than reactive themes, has the SMF development team considered making the platform more mobile-friendly? I think if SMF was more geared towards mobile, while also respecting PC users, it could boost activity.

SMF is the best forum software on the market, hands down. It provides all of the functionality one would need to start their own community, without spending money on the forum software. No need to pay a fortune for other softwares which provide the same functionality.

Ultimately, I came here for advice, as someone who is very ambitious and wishes to start their own community, but has a nagging feeling that it may just not be worth it.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2020, 08:52:41 PM by samdersb »

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Re: Future of Forums
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2020, 09:39:17 PM »
It all depends on what people are used. Forums and social media, both have pros and cons. I believe forums are now complete software if combined with Discord which completely go over social media in almost every point of view and is absolutely the best app to chat with people and to voice call, not sure about video calls. 
On forums every conversation will be available for public for a long time while on social media is on the move conversation which will most likely be forgotten after short time.
Now about forums popularity, its all about content and ideas. Forums are not much different compared to social media, they can be very toxic or user friendly, again this very depends on content and on people. Huge advantage of forums is availability, similar to searching on Google, forum will offer all possible knowledge if you know what to search, while for example Facebook is a bad place to search for answers, only good to find people or to sell yourself/your info - not much different compared to pornography, people are posting their pictures, places, what devices they are using, where they are and who knows what else..
I'm not sure what forum software should do to modernize something, for that purpose there are hundreds of mods that modernize forum, of course if you know what you are doing.
A very nice advantage of forums is organization of boards, SMF is very futuristic if you find right theme with nice quality.

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Re: Future of Forums
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2020, 12:11:26 AM »
... what would drive someone to post on a forum, compared to a Facebook group, or a subreddit?
Number one reason is that not everyone wants, or is allowed by their employer, to have a Facebook account ...
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Re: Future of Forums
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2020, 12:47:13 AM »
... what would drive someone to post on a forum, compared to a Facebook group, or a subreddit?
Number one reason is that not everyone wants, or is allowed by their employer, to have a Facebook account ...
Eh. I wouldn't really say that's number one. It's most likely one of the multitude of reasons, but using myself as an example since I can use FB all I want basically 24/7, yet still I hang around many forums - To me, it's more about the different natures of the two.

Facebook is everyone's and anyone's living room, where you basically can not have any control over the discussions that take place without using FB-groups,
and when a FB group grows large enough you again lose all control over what discussions you really even get to see and participate in. Add to that the fact that FB is admittedly always been trying to control content, and content visibility for every user individually, so that you can't even be sure you and your identical twin with similar tastes sitting next to you can see the same discussions... Yeah.

Forums on the other hand, tend to be directed at (generally well) defined smaller audiences, and offer structure, stability and continuity so that you pretty much know what types of discussions you are about to see when you log on, and that any discussion you took part in yesterday will most likely be easy to find and continue tomorrow.

These, are among the biggest reasons for me.
Disclaimer: No, I don't have a twin - that was just a bad example I came up with.
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