Forum Suddenly Looks Different!!

[justinbowser]

I was poking around in the Admin section and changed the Forum Title and after saving the forum layout totally changed, looks more like an old BBS.  I tried switching themes but no-go.  Here's a screen shot of what the forum looks like now with "Babylon" theme...

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

Looks okay to me, not like in that screenshot - Are you perchance using a different copy of the same theme?
Also, the forum seems to be a 1.1.14 install - You do know you are way behind the times?

[shawnb61]

Change your url in your browser to http.

This often happens with http/https confusion.

[shawnb61]

If you have a certificate, complete the conversion by following these steps:
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=555034.0

[justinbowser]

Lex - I am in the process of converting to SMF from YaBB 2.6.12 so I had to convert to 1X.  Not everything is working after the conversion (attachments issues in the other two threads) and I am hoping to resolve them before upgrading to the latest version.

shawn - When I change the URL to HTTP: it pops right back to HTTPS: as soon as I hit enter...

[Antes]

CSS loading properly for me. Try "Ctrl+F5". Check if you have issues with reaching http://bmwr65.org/smf/Themes/babylon/style.css?fin11

[justinbowser]

Antes - ^F5 didn't work, just popped back to HTTPS.  I did go into Chrome and told it to accept unsecured content and it now displays normally.  I have a valid certificate installed on the server is there something else I need to do on my server side?

[shawnb61]

Follow the link in my post above.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Loads fine in FF81 and IE11.  Is this just a Chrome problem?

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

Loads fine in FF81 and IE11.  Is this just a Chrome problem?

No, I saw no problem earlier with Chrome - That's why I was asking if the public theme and the one they are using might be different.

But right now, it's different - Now the page is secured, but the theme is not. Now this should be fixed easily by updating all the theme urls to use https.

[justinbowser]

Lex - I did nothing to any of the themes, just a newb with SMF and afraid to touch anything until I get the kinks worked out.

shawn - I looked over your post and atted a .htaccess file to the SMF root directory and it didn't seem to do anything.  The repair_settings.php files appear to be for 2X, since I am running 1X can I still use them or is there a file I can edit manually to verify HTTPS vs HTTP?

The SSL checker site said everything was fine.

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

Your htaccess is probably the reason for the change I noted. Now all you would need to do is to update the forum and theme settings for it to request resources using https instead of http.

Now, I'm not actually a 100% sure - Shawn for example would probably know better, but repair_settings should still work for 1.1
https://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Repair_settings.php

[justinbowser]

OK, I have downloaded the repair_settings utility and will run it shortly...

[shawnb61]

Yes, it works for 1.1.

I would try the htaccess in your site root, not forum root, if they're different.

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

Thanks for the confirmation

[justinbowser]

I appreciate the help, guyz!

I ran the utility and changed any instance of HTTP: I found to HTTPS:.  I went into chrome and set "insecure content" back to "block" and reloaded the page.  The screen now looks normal even though the address bar complains that the site is still "Not Secure."

[Antes]

That's because you were forcing your forum to load in HTTPS, while some browsers tend to ignore this unsecure loading sources, apparently Chrome didn't and refused to load non-secure items into the page. Now you fixed your forums loading ways into non-Secure route, Chrome happily load the non-secure sources. The "non secure" term will stay there forever, till you get a SSL certificate, most of the hosts offer Let's Encrypt for free, check with your host... If they can show you the way.

[shawnb61]

The "not secure" message still there is likely referring to an image or other file that is still http.  Usually it will help you find it if you click on it.  Sometimes an image in a post.

Very often, right after cutting over like this, it's the forum logo.  First place I'd check...

[justinbowser]

Interesting.

Antes - I have a certificate installed and going to the   http://www.redirect-checker.org/index.php site that shawn referred to in a different thread and it gave my site a clean bill of health, cert wise.

I have not spliced in our forum logo yet, I haven't wanted to do anything until everything was working.  But, that made me start thinking and I noticed my avatar displaying in the "User Info" area, opened the image in a different tab and it's loading from an HTTP URL.  The conversion left the avatars in the old YaBB directory but it is covered by the same cert.  Should I move these avatars to the SMF avatar directory?

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

Your site appears secure for me, tried the index and a couple of random topics that I could access as a guest.
If you still see the not secure warning somewhere, it is most likely due to some media file embedded in a post from an outside source, or something that is only visible when logged in.