"Show new replies to your posts." behavior change in 2.1?

[Douglas]

On 2.0, I can click "Show new replies to your posts.", and it'll show me any and all replies to my posts.

Apparently, this is no longer the case on 2.1. Can we get that basic functionality back, please?

If it's there, but handled a different way, please document the steps so that I can post it up on a couple sites where some of the folks need *really easy* instructions.

Thanks!

[Diego Andrés]

It works the same way in action=unreadreplies, not sure exactly what issue you're having.
If you mean that you can't find the link, it's on the right side of the linktree in Updated Topics

[Douglas]

I'll have to bug one of the admins that's claiming to have an issue. He's said it's not working (RC 3). I don't participate a lot in the forums there, so I don't know. What I did do, however, is tell him to adjust his notification settings so that he'll at least get alerts or emails or whatever.

Seems the default behavior, though, is no posts are showing up in your unread replies because it's set to no alerts/no emails by default (which we want).

I would think that "Show new replies to your posts" (or "Updated Topics") would work regardless of notification settings.

EDIT: Just tested this on Hogville, and it seems to be working for me there (same version).

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

I haven't had any trouble with this, and I'm running two live 2.1 installs.

[live627]

Huh, go figure. The unread topics list seems to behave like a watchlist. I prepared some code changes which should restore the old behavior; it's on GitHub. https://github.com/live627/SMF2.1/commit/73ce7e81b42dc0fc4af53da3dc0aca8022342747

I don't know if this is intentional or a bug.

[Douglas]

The workaround I gave BG should provide him with a temporary solution until a permanent fix is in place:

See the button at the top and bottom of the thread itself called "No Alerts or Emails"? Any thread you need to follow, click that button and select the appropriate notification you want.

live627, will this make it into the milestones page? https://github.com/SimpleMachines/SMF2.1/milestone/10

(I appreciate the link. I'll manually patch the FF forum, for now)

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

Huh, go figure. The unread topics list seems to behave like a watchlist. I prepared some code changes which should restore the old behavior; it's on GitHub. https://github.com/live627/SMF2.1/commit/73ce7e81b42dc0fc4af53da3dc0aca8022342747

I don't know if this is intentional or a bug.

If it's really tied to notifications, I'd lean towards calling it a bug even if someone did it intentionally.

[Douglas]

Let me also thank all of you for the quickness that y'all jumped on this, even if Lex didn't think it was an issue, initially (HAH!).

Given the work that BG does on Friday nights during high school football season, this is a critical item for him to have working properly, since he runs our live football (american) scoreboard... which auto-updates high school football scores every 30 seconds.

He has multiple places (on and off the forums) that he monitors for the latest scores, so that he can push them out in real time.

We're one of a very few sites in the nation that does this at the high school level, so for him to be able to see replies in a single area, working correctly, is beyond vital to his score updating abilities.

[live627]

Huh, go figure. The unread topics list seems to behave like a watchlist. I prepared some code changes which should restore the old behavior; it's on GitHub. https://github.com/live627/SMF2.1/commit/73ce7e81b42dc0fc4af53da3dc0aca8022342747

I don't know if this is intentional or a bug.

If it's really tied to notifications, I'd lean towards calling it a bug even if someone did it intentionally.

I think it may only apply if an ignored topic has been seen before but has new posts.

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

Lex didn't think it was an issue, initially (HAH!).

Never, my only fault is the complete lack of imperfections.
Just hadn't seen this happen, so most likely just down to different circumstances like user settings or something.

Huh, go figure. The unread topics list seems to behave like a watchlist. I prepared some code changes which should restore the old behavior; it's on GitHub. https://github.com/live627/SMF2.1/commit/73ce7e81b42dc0fc4af53da3dc0aca8022342747

I don't know if this is intentional or a bug.

If it's really tied to notifications, I'd lean towards calling it a bug even if someone did it intentionally.

I think it may only apply if an ignored topic has been seen before but has new posts.

Still doesn't quite sound right. I do think the way it works on 2.0 is exactly what people expect it to do.
Giving the extra option to never show a particular topic again could sometimes be handy, but this isn't really that either - this seems a bit too unpredictable.

[live627]

And in the selector to ignore a topic it has a description that states that it will be hidden from the recent topics list.The default of no email/no alert is the same as in 2.0.

Also, the code in the commit linked above most likely doesn't do anything noteworthy.

[Sesquipedalian]

In my tests, if the user has selected "Not Following" on various topics, those topics never show up in the "Updated Topics" list, whereas they do show up if the user has selected "No Alerts or Emails" instead. I have not been able to create any situation where a topic does not show up in the "Updated Topics" list when the user has selected "No Alerts or Emails" for that topic.

Based on that, my best guess is that one of the following two things are happening on the forum in question, Douglas:

1. This forum has been running 2.1 for a while now, and previous changes to the relevant code have left this user's notification preferences in an inconsistent state. (I have tried directly manipulating all the relevant values in the database in my attempts to reproduce the problem, and I haven't come up with a combination that causes the behaviour described, but maybe there is some combination that I missed.)

2. The problem is really just some confusion about the difference between "Not Following" and "No Alerts or Emails" on the part of the end user that you are supporting.

In either case, I suggest telling the end user to go to ?action=profile;area=notification;sa=topics and make sure that all topics listed there have the right notification settings. In particular, if any show "Not Following" in the "Alert Preferences" column, change them to the default value.