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bethl · May 30, 2024, 01:02:13 PM

For some reason after I added the SMFPacks Shoutbox my like system doesn't work. How can I fix it? One last question do we have a translator mod for 2.1?

Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen · May 30, 2024, 01:11:37 PM

Your best option would be to ask in the mods own support topic, or over at SMFPacks.

bethl · May 30, 2024, 02:08:03 PM

Ok thank you I was thinking about that but wasn't for sure.

Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen · May 30, 2024, 02:16:45 PM

No problem, mod authors usually know their own code best so we recommend asking them first if problems arise from mods.
I'll mark this topic solved, but feel free to post back and let us know if you aren't able to sort this out.

bethl · June 07, 2024, 11:33:23 PM

I still haven't gotten a reply for this after I placed it on the mod support section. Is there any way someone may know how to fix it?

Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen · June 07, 2024, 11:52:50 PM

Marking this not solved.

Do you see errors in your SMF Error log, or your browser console?
These could provide some hints on where to look at.

Sir Osis of Liver · June 08, 2024, 04:38:09 PM

IIRC, that's one of Nibogo's mods. Do you have the free or paid version?

Steve · June 09, 2024, 06:37:44 AM

Quote from: Sir Osis of Liver on June 08, 2024, 04:38:09 PMIIRC

You do. I have his pro version and while it works just fine, it has some annoying quirks, like I can't install Levgal with the Shoutbox installed.

bethl · June 16, 2024, 12:59:57 PM

Quote from: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on June 07, 2024, 11:52:50 PMMarking this not solved.

Do you see errors in your SMF Error log, or your browser console?
These could provide some hints on where to look at.

I have the free one and I'll reinstall it and look for the errors. Thank you.

bethl · June 16, 2024, 01:28:57 PM

Ok so I don't show any errors and you can click the link and it loads like it's working but doesn't show you have liked the post.

Sir Osis of Liver · June 16, 2024, 04:22:34 PM

Same in default Curve? If you uninstall the shoutbox do you still have the problem?

bethl · June 16, 2024, 08:01:53 PM

Quote from: Sir Osis of Liver on June 16, 2024, 04:22:34 PMSame in default Curve? If you uninstall the shoutbox do you still have the problem?

No, it works fine when I uninstall or disable it.

Sir Osis of Liver · June 17, 2024, 01:09:04 PM

I see Nibogo hasn't replied to your post in mod support topic. You can try contacting him on his support forum -

https://www.smfpacks.com/forum/

bethl · June 17, 2024, 06:02:15 PM

Ok thank you.

Sir Osis of Liver · June 17, 2024, 09:10:21 PM

FYI, I've installed the paid mod SMFPacks Shoutbox Pro 1.5.0 on three forums running 2.13 and 2.14, it does not affect likes.

Just installed the free v.2.0 in 2.1.4 core install. Likes are displayed in other members' posts, but not your own. You can like a post, but poster can't see it.

Steve · June 18, 2024, 07:06:03 AM

Quote from: Sir Osis of Liver on June 17, 2024, 01:09:04 PMI see Nibogo hasn't replied to your post in mod support topic. You can try contacting him on his support forum -

I can guarantee you he'll say he doesn't provide support for the free version.

Sir Osis of Liver · June 18, 2024, 04:31:18 PM

Then it should be removed from mod site. It's obviously buggy.

llyon · September 04, 2024, 11:45:38 PM

Quote from: Sir Osis of Liver on June 18, 2024, 04:31:18 PMThen it should be removed from mod site. It's obviously buggy.

Same issue with it here - definitely buggy and should be removed.

Arantor · September 05, 2024, 03:38:08 AM

If mods were removed for being *buggy*, there'd be like half the mods gone overnight.

Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen · September 05, 2024, 10:29:49 AM

Also, allowing actual testing and development to happen on the forum is a bonus - if the mods were simply removed when a bug was found, I'd expect it would be a whole lot more work for a lot less results.

Arantor · September 05, 2024, 10:32:11 AM

This is before you get into the debate of "how buggy does a mod have to be to be delisted" because you have things that are working as the author intended, but others see as bugs; things where a theme and a mod don't play nicely together but both are independently fine; where combinations of mods don't play nicely together.

Anything that deviates from some arbitrary definition of expected behaviour is "a bug".

Sir Osis of Liver · September 05, 2024, 04:02:25 PM

Aren't mods removed if they're no longer supported?

Arantor · September 05, 2024, 04:08:07 PM

Given that there are mods listed on the mod site that are only compatible with 1.0.x (not even 1.1.x which debuted in 2006), I'd say the answer is no.

Diego Andrés · September 05, 2024, 04:18:22 PM

Correct.

There are few scenarios that predate me, but I natively agree with the intention/sentiment:
- MOD is completely broken when using the stated compatible SMF versions.
- MOD breaks the forum when using the stated compatible SMF versions.
- Security issues

Obviously it's not a feasible task to accomplish manually so we only take actions on received valid reports, using the appropriate report functionality in the customization page.

Adding no longer supported MODs would just be more work and unfair to those that still function.

Douglas · September 05, 2024, 07:31:00 PM

Quote from: Arantor on September 05, 2024, 03:38:08 AMIf mods were removed for being *buggy*, there'd be like half the mods gone overnight.

Normally, I would agree, but...

Quote from: Steve on June 18, 2024, 07:06:03 AMI can guarantee you he'll say he doesn't provide support for the free version.

That is a red flag. If they want their mod on here (free, of course), then they need to actually support it. If they're not supporting it, ditch it.

Otherwise, everyone would expect the SMF team to provide support, which isn't fair to anyone on the team.

But that's just my (biased) opinion.

Arantor · September 05, 2024, 07:35:30 PM

But then you fall into the same problem as all the other mods - if you make a rule of 'it's not supported therefore it has to go', you rule out the entirety of the backlog.

If you make it so free versions that also have paid versions require support, you end up cutting out the paid mod makers, and while I know full well there are people who would welcome that, *this is not a sustainable idea*.

Paid mods need to exist because if they're suitably discouraged, no-one will bother, and yet more of the folks will just go elsewhere. The lack of premium mod authors isn't a feature of the community, it's a tacit admission that the ecosystem is dying.

Steve · September 06, 2024, 11:26:14 AM

@Douglas - let me clarify what I said. If he comes here, he will provide support but if the OP asks at the website where the pro version is he will not provide support for the free version there.

Arantor · September 06, 2024, 11:30:57 AM

To be fair, I don't think Nibogo was ever that interested in offering support anywhere, and I've seen him give refunds rather than offer support in the past, so, make of that what you will.

Also factor in that, in Nibogo's case, there was also the small matter of NitroBB (take SMF, rebrand it, add all his premium mods, sell it for $100+ later reduced to $70, but it never got the traction), so I'd imagine his enthusiasm for the whole thing is limited.

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