Hosting a YabbSE

[-Matt-]

I am very very new to Yabb. I havent even downloaded it or tryed to install it yet. Before I make the huge switch of forums I want to ask how to setup a free forums website like: hxxp:www.boardnation.com/index.php [nonactive]

That would be the main reason to switch to Yabb! Thanks
-Matt

[[Unknown]]

A lot of work went into that website.  The tables and such were changed a lot so that it would work out.

I'm sure you can understand that the authors of that site are not going to give you their "secrets", because that's bad business sense.

Further, because one of the owners of that site could very well be considered my boss, I'm not going to either - out of respect for him.

Hosting YaBB SE doesn't take a lot.  SMF takes even less.

-[Unknown]

[-Matt-]

I know. It is just that I have seen many Yabb sites like that. (Proboards) and such. I have managed to do this with invision board.

Would there be any instructions or anything like that?

-Matt

[-Matt-]

Wait a minute! You cant even download SMF!

[Spaceman-Spiff]

SMF version 1.0 isnt released yet, it's still under development. If you want, for now you can use YaBB SE 1.5.4
do you have your own website with PHP and MySQL?

[andrea]

Here you can download YaBB SE 1.5.4 which is the current version of YaBB SE:

www.yabbse.org/download.php

SMF will be the succedor of YaBB SE.

[-Matt-]

I am a webhost my self! I own hxxp:www.exthost.net [nonactive] , hxxp:www.tuxc.net [nonactive] and hxxp:www.0ed.net [nonactive]

I want to offer free forum hosting to visitors. If Yabbse is hard or I cant do this I will just stuck with invision

-Matt

[[Unknown]]

Why don't you ask the owners of Boardnation?  They may be willing to help.

YaBB SE isn't that difficult to work or install... why don't you give it a try?

-[Unknown]

[andrea]

I know. It is just that I have seen many Yabb sites like that. (Proboards) and such. I have managed to do this with invision board.

Would there be any instructions or anything like that?

You can give the board this look and feel by modifying the file "template.php". There are various template tools available which help you customize the layout of the board. For the tools available for the current stable version visit this link (sticky threads):
http://www.yabbse.org/community/index.php?board=144

[[Unknown]]

I know. It is just that I have seen many Yabb sites like that. (Proboards) and such. I have managed to do this with invision board.

Would there be any instructions or anything like that?

You can give the board this look and feel by modifying the file "template.php". There are various template tools available which help you customize the layout of the board. For the tools available for the current stable version visit this link (sticky threads):
http://www.yabbse.org/community/index.php?board=144

Not quite so.  Many of the changes involve the new template system and cannot be done with YaBB SE.

-[Unknown]

[andrea]

Not quite so.  Many of the changes involve the new template system and cannot be done with YaBB SE.

I know this. But most of it can be done. I mean the colors, the buttons etc. The look and feel can already be done...

[-Matt-]

Barn  I just want something that will:

1.) Give the visitor a sign up forum
2.) Creat the forum based on the info submited
3.) Email the user the pass to admin for validation.

Not complicated at all!

[Benn]

The YaBB SE installation is ultra easy already, you could just modify the install.php and hard code in some of the variables like database info etc. Then they'd basically just need to choose a name and password.

[Mecha Dude]

If you have a host with cPanel, install is just a few mouse clicks. 

[David]

Depending on how you do it, it can be quick and easy.  We, at Boardnation, have taken a lot of time and spent a lot of effort in optimizing the scripts as well as writing our setup and backend management software.  Feel free to contact be off this forum, [email protected], if you want.

[Mecha Dude]

I don't know what I was thinking, YaBB SE is not an option PHP-Nuke is, sorry about that! 

[charlottezweb]

I don't know what I was thinking, YaBB SE is not an option PHP-Nuke is, sorry about that! 

Autoinstaller?  I might wait for a stable SMF release and see if I can change that

Jason

[Mecha Dude]

Yes it's an autoinstaller.  However I have yet to get a response from anyone from cPanel on how I can make my own.

The one for PHP-Nuke just asks for is a directory to install into it.
Took 5 seconds, then all I had to do was create a superuser.

[[Unknown]]

I can make an autoinstaller very easily for SMF or YaBB SE.  Just point me to who to give it to if it can be put into CPanel.

-[Unknown]

[charlottezweb]

Cpanel isn't responsible for the autoinstaller.  That's a third party add-on that hosts purchase to add to their cpanel servers.  That's why I was saying I'll try to get that added to it once a stable release is out.

[[Unknown]]

How hard would it be for me to give it to like all the hosts I can find?

Can anyone give me the source to cpanel (is that legal?) so I can figure out how to make an autoinstaller?

-[Unknown]

[andrea]

www.cpanel.net is the official website. There is a download area. Not sure if the sources are included there.

[[Unknown]]

Odd... I would've sworn it cost money.

-[Unknown]

[andrea]

Pretty sure there is some documentation around for making autoinstallers. I can try to help get that informations after work. You can also have cpanel access to my host if this helps.

[Aquilo]

I think you can build an installer in php or perl and download a skin and build it in and then ask the server admin if your not the admin but a reseller to install the theme. but cPanel skins get big, I started building one for xtram but I takes some time.

all the information is passed to the pages like this: <cpanel langprint="INDXGenAccountInfo">
I have the default skin if you need but it's 1.5mb.

[Wezz6400]

I personally suggest people not to use the autoinstallers in cpanel because they are always updated with the newest version of that script very late. Imagine like now instead of YaBB SE 1.4.0 1.5.4 would be included in the next cpanel update. That isn't good. Not to mention the fact that most scripts are quite easy to install anyways so a autoinstaller only purpose is that it takes less time.

Just my 2 cents.

[[Unknown]]

So I will remember to update it.. maybe I can make it auto update.

-[Unknown]

[Wezz6400]

Well I think the problem is the people at cpanel are not updating. If updating will be up to you I don't think there will be a problem.
Auto update would be perfect.

[Mecha Dude]

This is all I heard about it:

You'd need to edit your skin and add a line on the addon scripts page to a PHP script. You will then need to program that PHP script to automatically uncompress and install the script.

[charlottezweb]

I personally suggest people not to use the autoinstallers in cpanel because they are always updated with the newest version of that script very late. Imagine like now instead of YaBB SE 1.4.0 1.5.4 would be included in the next cpanel update. That isn't good. Not to mention the fact that most scripts are quite easy to install anyways so a autoinstaller only purpose is that it takes less time.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree and personally wouldn't use it.  However, I have clients that find it very useful because they don't have to do anything but click a button and fill in blanks. 

And if your host actually pays and updates the installer regularly, it's not that far behind.  I think a lot of hsots buy it initially to advertise and don't keep it updated. 

There's a new version to be released very soon of the one I use and it's already pretty current.  But overall, I agree with the point about installing things yourself if you can.

Jason

[[Unknown]]

What if I make the autoinstaller auto update?  Then they don't have to pay.

-[Unknown]

[David]

My understanding is CPanel does not include these auto installers.  Rather a program, an addon, Fantastico does.  You could try e-mailing the CPanel folks though, ask for Nick.

[charlottezweb]

My understanding is CPanel does not include these auto installers.  Rather a program, an addon, Fantastico does.  You could try e-mailing the CPanel folks though, ask for Nick.

I'm with you there...I use the autoinstaller from cpskins.com but I don't think cpanel has it's own at all.

If [Unknown] wants to make one, more power to him, but I can't imagine the task of coding that, and more importantly, integrating it into cpanel considering the hosts would have to upload those files and that that would confine you to one specific skin whereas there's tons of them outthere...

Jason

[Metho]

In my opinion, it could do wonders for promoting the board. In my cpanel, they've got a forum autoinstaller...for phpBB. (yuckickyyuck!!!) So when SMF comes out, if it started getting packaged with cpanels in some hosts, when people said, 'I want a forum! Look! There's one already configured in my cpanel, that's cool!' And then they'll install it. Happiness insues. I honestly would have never heard of YaBB SE when I first started looking for software had it not been for a very small site I loved going to... I clicked the little YaBB SE copyright at the bottom and the rest was history. Originally I probably woulda went for vB since that's what I'd been most exposed to. (ickyyuckicky!!!)

Methonis

[charlottezweb]

In my opinion, it could do wonders for promoting the board. In my cpanel, they've got a forum autoinstaller...for phpBB.

Right, phpBB comes with my autoinstaller too, it's a third party add-on to cpanel.  That's my point.  In theory it'd be great, but the problem is that cpanel is like an OS if you want to think of it that way, and for every different skin out there (or wallpaper if you want to continue the metaphor) (and believe me there are tons) you'd have to add that autoinstaller coding.  Well, first you'd have to have a third party autoinstaller installed, but then you'd have to add yse (or smf) to that.  All your users would have to have the same skin to have access to it, or you'd have to edit ALL your skins.  And that cpanel upload has to be done DIRECTLY to the server...you can't install it to your own shared or reseller account...it would need to be done in root.

It'd be easier to create a non-cpanel autoinstaller, which is just what the normal install program is

Either that, or better yet, petition all the creators of autoinstaller scripts to get them to add YSE/SMF in their options.  Most will do it if they get enough requests.

Whew, that's my $2 worth

Jason

[[Unknown]]

What if I get some code that will work with any skin, and then start plopping it into skins... maybe tlaking to skin creators and making it easy for them to put it in.

-[Unknown]

[charlottezweb]

What if I get some code that will work with any skin, and then start plopping it into skins... maybe tlaking to skin creators and making it easy for them to put it in.

Hey, I'm all for it!  I think it would be GREAT marketing if you can do it.  I just don't think a lot of people here have the ability to install their own skins.  I'd hate for you to waste hours of time for no purpose.

I think you'd be better off talking to some of the autoinstaller companies (because I don't think Skin designers have anything to do with autoinstall functions) and see what they would require to integrate into their scripts.  That way they might be able to let you know what they'd need you to write so they could just take your code and files and drop it in.  I'm sure they'd be more than willing to do that if you take out the part where they have to actually do work 

Jason

[adam]

cPanel is not free and I did contact them about this and they you can get it installed but it won't work unless you have a license.

[David]

May be worthwhile actually giving them a call about it
http://www.cpanel.net/contact.htm

[Sys_ZERO]

Hello,

I'm not advanced in PHP, so I don't know how to write myself a SMF autoinstall script. Unknown, could you please give me a hint on where to start?

Thanks

[[Unknown]]

I'm not sure.  Once Lycos and Fantastico picked us up I sorta lost interest.

-[Unknown]

[Trekkie101]

I'm not sure.  Once Lycos and Fantastico picked us up I sorta lost interest.

-[Unknown]

The easier, the better.

There are a lot of hosts, a lot without cPanel and Fantastico, and if their users had a way to install a forum software that didnt require them to do very much, their likely to choose what their host supports and that would be SMF. If SMF was as easy to install as signing up for a remote host im sure it would get a lot more users.

Also telling and giving it to as many hosts as you could, isnt a bad idea.

SMF could end up having a reputation for being a Web Hosts best friend.

[Sys_ZERO]

There are a lot of hosts, a lot without cPanel and Fantastico, and if their users had a way to install a forum software that didnt require them to do very much, their likely to choose what their host supports and that would be SMF. If SMF was as easy to install as signing up for a remote host im sure it would get a lot more users.

Also telling and giving it to as many hosts as you could, isnt a bad idea.

I am a host myself

I have Fantatisco+cPanel on my servers. I just wanna setup SMF hosting, that's why I want an autoinstall script.

Sys_ZERO