"Development Edition"

anunlike · April 29, 2006, 07:53:49 PM

I suppose I'm being impatient and premature with this, but I have to ask ...

What's the deal with "Development Edition"? What makes this Development Edition different from 1.1 RC 2?

Harzem · April 29, 2006, 07:55:25 PM

There are new feautes around here now

But at this moment, they are still being added. I think it will be complete in a few hours at most.

Deaks · April 29, 2006, 07:55:56 PM

this is a next version it has a large update from RC2 no-one knows if this is final or not

Grudge · April 29, 2006, 08:01:29 PM

This is titled as a "Development Edition" as it contains some code which is from the next version of SMF (After 1.1 Final). We don't want people getting excited about anything new they see thinking it will make it into 1.1. 1.1 is feature frozen as of RC2, anything you see here that is not in RC2 will not be in 1.1 Final.

To answer the obvious question of why are we running a future version of SMF here already - simple - testing. We've already changed a lot for the next version of SMF and keeping it under test by running it here is a great way to catch bugs early and/or see how it performs under heavy use.

vbgamer45 · April 29, 2006, 08:28:21 PM

Thanks clears some things up. I was going to say I saw some new features in this edition but its for next one. Still cool.

uberjon · April 29, 2006, 08:35:45 PM

so does this mean that 1.1 final is very close?

Gary · April 29, 2006, 08:48:12 PM

I detect an update soon, either 1.1 RC3 or Final, we dont know.

I did see one thing earlier, but it appears to be gone.

anunlike · April 29, 2006, 09:39:53 PM

Thanks for the clarification / explanation.

What new features have you all spotted on this forum?

JshLnsctt · April 29, 2006, 10:03:08 PM

"Edit Buddies" in modify profile

Gary · April 29, 2006, 10:08:01 PM

Quote from: anunlike on April 29, 2006, 09:39:53 PM
What new features have you all spotted on this forum?

There was a moderators CP which I saw, its gone now. but I'd assume its there for the SMF crew. :p

Thantos · April 29, 2006, 10:10:06 PM

Quote from: JshLnsctt on April 29, 2006, 10:03:08 PM
"Edit Buddies" in modify profile

Buddy lists are a 1.1 feature.

Gary · April 29, 2006, 10:11:13 PM

^ Yeah, but it was never displayed like that.

JshLnsctt · April 29, 2006, 10:12:45 PM

Also they are doing something to the PM system because I get an error when I try to send PMs

Gary · April 29, 2006, 10:15:10 PM

He's right, I just tried to send one to myself and I got:

QuoteFatal error: Call to undefined function parseWikiLinks() in /*******/Sources/PersonalMessage.php on line 1300

Mod Note: Edited to remove folder list on error...

JshLnsctt · April 29, 2006, 10:15:44 PM

I have been getting that error for a few minuteds now

Thantos · April 29, 2006, 10:37:04 PM

Alright all it should be fixed now. It wasn't a problem with the new version but with a mod we have on the site.

anunlike · April 30, 2006, 02:18:45 AM

So, are most of the new features for staff as opposed to regular members, such as post moderation and the like?

godboko · April 30, 2006, 04:39:36 AM

Sounds very interesting

glad to see things moving forward keep up all the great work.

Harzem · April 30, 2006, 07:58:26 AM

Quote from: AwwLilMaggie on April 29, 2006, 10:08:01 PM
There was a moderators CP which I saw, its gone now. but I'd assume its there for the SMF crew. :p

I've catched it also. It was for post moderation. It gave an error when I've clicked it, now it's gone.

You can see the blank error by clicking <SNIP -- lets not post team links!>

And also we have calendar now

I don't remember it there before, maybe I was a bit unaware

Gary · April 30, 2006, 09:36:41 AM

Quote from: HarzeM on April 30, 2006, 07:58:26 AM
And also we have calendar now I don't remember it there before, maybe I was a bit unaware

Heh. Thats always been a part of SMF. :p

Harzem · April 30, 2006, 09:37:16 AM

Quote from: AwwLilMaggie on April 30, 2006, 09:36:41 AM
Heh. Thats always been a part of SMF. :p

Of course, but it wasn't used in simplemachines.org.

Dannii · April 30, 2006, 09:50:01 AM

Yes it was

Well for birthdays only it was.

JayBachatero · April 30, 2006, 03:38:50 PM

The calendar has been there for as long as I remember.

Harzem · April 30, 2006, 04:04:12 PM

Anyway, I and some more people get a fatal error when we try to send a pm. Just to report it.

Deaks · April 30, 2006, 04:06:27 PM

explains why my inbox has been quiet

Grudge · April 30, 2006, 04:29:39 PM

Sorry, should work now.

godboko · April 30, 2006, 05:56:35 PM

Just noticed I don't think I have ever sent a pm on this site wonder if that is odd. Anyway on topic thank you all for your continued great work look forward to forth coming releases.

eriktm · May 01, 2006, 01:56:45 PM

But this "Development Edition", why haven't Charter Members access to download?

Deaks · May 01, 2006, 02:02:49 PM

Quote from: Erik™ on May 01, 2006, 01:56:45 PM
But this "Development Edition", why haven't Charter Members access to download?

to quote grudge

Quote from: GrudgeThis is titled as a "Development Edition" as it contains some code which is from the next version of SMF (After 1.1 Final). We don't want people getting excited about anything new they see thinking it will make it into 1.1. 1.1 is feature frozen as of RC2, anything you see here that is not in RC2 will not be in 1.1 Final.

To answer the obvious question of why are we running a future version of SMF here already - simple - testing. We've already changed a lot for the next version of SMF and keeping it under test by running it here is a great way to catch bugs early and/or see how it performs under heavy use.

Does kinda answer your question.

Grudge · May 01, 2006, 02:16:47 PM

Indeed. This is the first time about 5,000 lines of code have been tested on anything other than my local server with a total user base of me, and "test". Since installing it here I've already found about 20 bugs. I think Charter Members would be a little annoyed if we gave them a release like that. I will be very surprised if we release a first beta of the next edition this side of Christmas.

Gary · May 01, 2006, 02:23:32 PM

I think that its actually a good idea to test things out here. Not only do we get sneak peaks on up coming features but it does probably make it easier for the Dev's to spot bugs since loads more people are looking out for them and reporting them.

Thantos · May 01, 2006, 03:00:52 PM

Well doing tests on a support forum can be kind of hairy. When things work its great, but when we find 100+ bugs that affect our users its not so great

eriktm · May 01, 2006, 03:05:57 PM

Quote from: Grudge on May 01, 2006, 02:16:47 PM
I think Charter Members would be a little annoyed if we gave them a release like that.

Not me

Quote from: Thantos on May 01, 2006, 03:00:52 PM
but when we find 100+ bugs that affect our users its not so great

Oh...

do you have a list?

Thantos · May 01, 2006, 04:57:32 PM

Well this time we didn't have 100+ but it could happen if we aren't careful

David · May 01, 2006, 05:54:14 PM

We always have multiple branches of development going on simultaneously. Flow for any release is generally:
1) simplemachines.org/community/
2) team members
3) beta testers
4) charter members
5) public

winrules · May 01, 2006, 06:17:09 PM

who are beta testers?

Thantos · May 01, 2006, 08:33:32 PM

People who beta test

Dannii · May 01, 2006, 08:51:01 PM

We keep them in a cage and poke them with a pointy stick

Thantos · May 01, 2006, 08:57:59 PM

I don't know about you but I use a spoon.

"But why a spoon?"
"Because it'll hurt more you twit"

Dannii · May 01, 2006, 09:19:38 PM

You have a point.. death by spooning is the most painful execution method ever invented.

Ooops.. maybe a little off topic

eriktm · May 02, 2006, 08:43:10 AM

Quote from: David on May 01, 2006, 05:54:14 PM
3) beta testers

Who are they? Especially selected by the team?

* Erik™ starts wonder...

uberjon · May 02, 2006, 11:11:11 AM

i belive that the beta testers are also the staff

eriktm · May 02, 2006, 11:19:08 AM

Quote from: David on May 01, 2006, 05:54:14 PM
1) simplemachines.org/community/
2) team members
3) beta testers
4) charter members
5) public

Then it comes out 2 times for them

Killer Possum · May 02, 2006, 01:20:54 PM

The "Beta Testers" are an elite underground group. Only the team, and they themselves, know who they are.

Oh, and they indeed are not team members...

Harzem · May 02, 2006, 01:25:21 PM

Even the beta testers don't know that they are the testers, it is so secret

Sometimes you see a new version announcement here. In fact they are beta versions, you don't know it and install. Then come and ask for support. You are unconsciously a beta tester. Do you know that SMF 1.1 RC2 is not publiced yet?

JshLnsctt · May 02, 2006, 02:40:40 PM

Quote from: HarzeM on May 02, 2006, 01:25:21 PM
Even the beta testers don't know that they are the testers, it is so secret

Sometimes you see a new version announcement here. In fact they are beta versions, you don't know it and install. Then come and ask for support. You are unconsciously a beta tester. Do you know that SMF 1.1 RC2 is not publiced yet?

I wonder if I am a tester

H · May 02, 2006, 03:00:37 PM

Quote from: JshLnsctt on May 02, 2006, 02:40:40 PM
Quote from: HarzeM on May 02, 2006, 01:25:21 PM
Even the beta testers don't know that they are the testers, it is so secret

Sometimes you see a new version announcement here. In fact they are beta versions, you don't know it and install. Then come and ask for support. You are unconsciously a beta tester. Do you know that SMF 1.1 RC2 is not publiced yet?

I wonder if I am a tester

* huwnet thinks you would know if you where

TarantinoArchives · May 04, 2006, 08:02:36 AM

Quote from: JshLnsctt on May 02, 2006, 02:40:40 PM
Quote from: HarzeM on May 02, 2006, 01:25:21 PM
Even the beta testers don't know that they are the testers, it is so secret

Sometimes you see a new version announcement here. In fact they are beta versions, you don't know it and install. Then come and ask for support. You are unconsciously a beta tester. Do you know that SMF 1.1 RC2 is not publiced yet?

I wonder if I am a tester

i think they'd have to kill ya if they toldya ;-)

godboko · May 05, 2006, 07:59:22 PM

Wish I was a beta tester....

eriktm · May 06, 2006, 08:17:44 AM

Quote from: godboko on May 05, 2006, 07:59:22 PM
Wish I was a beta tester....

I think many wishes

Prasad007 · May 06, 2006, 08:45:47 AM

good to hear of smf progressing

i think an update is inevitable to be released soon now that theres this "Development edition" running.
well im not keeping high hopes tho.
BEST OF LUCK TO THE TEAM!!

Leipe Po · May 10, 2006, 10:23:39 AM

i like to be poked with a pointy stick

but serious, who are they, and why are they underground? dont they want credit for ther work?

Prasad007 · July 10, 2006, 05:48:57 AM

its been in this "Development Edition" state from a really long time now!

H · July 10, 2006, 08:16:45 AM

Quoteits been in this "Development Edition" state from a really long time now!

It will be as DE is post-1.1

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