How to set "forum need moderation" stuff and hide poll results

[m20i02m]

(This content was modified 4 times after some answers you made me)

I've just installed the current SMF version (SMF 1.0 Beta 5 Public with french version installed).

I made about 20 boards with it, and most things looks like working fine...

But i didnt fine the setting screen to let the "SMF system" know that i want each board to be moderated.
Then NONE  of my 20 is moderated.

My question will certainly looks stupid but i'm fed of looking/clicking everywhere on the parameters screens without any solution to this "simple" problem.
Sorry, but I may not use the proper expressions / words because i'm not used to forum vocabulary, neither english is my native language


Who can help me to set all my boards with censorship/moderation by 2 different moderators ?

Question A

On the "modify board" screen i found the place to change:
( 1 ) Category
( 2 ) Order ( before, after, sub-forum)
( 3 ) Full name
( 4 ) Description
( 5 ) Allowed Groups
"Guest" and "All members" boxes are checked.

( 6 ) Moderators
Initially i forgot to set any moderator and i thought is was the reason of the not working moderation (in fact censorship)

I then thought, that the "SMF system" was able to automatically setup himself for moderating each board as soon as there were at least on moderator nickname.

For now i have set 2 moderators on each of my 20 discussions,which was a quite (and in the end useless) boring job.

I looks like the "SMF system" didnt automatically setup himself for knowing that this board should be moderated.

( 7 ) Notify on announcement
( 8 ) Count Posts
( 9 ) Board Theme

But unfortunately (on this french version) i didnt found any "This board needs to be moderated" check-button to click for.


Question B
Another thing that i dont understand,
when i go on the "Member control" then "modify permissions" i can both edit the following:

( 1 ) permission by group member
it's ok and usefull

( 2 ) permission by forum

but on this part of screen i cannot click on each of my 20 boards in the list.
the only click i can do is on "global" and "local"
i dont know where and how to modify "global" parameters of my boards

Question C
About polls results.
On each of my 20 forums i made a poll, and checked the option "results  visible only for voting people" ( or whatever name in english )
each people is allowed to vote only one time.

( 1 ) i noticed that every people, included non logged people or guests, can look at the poll and answers

( 2 ) I'd like to hide some boards (but not the forum) for non logged people and to hide results as long as they didnt vote

Answers required please

i hope  somebody could help me,  thanks alot

I certainly didnt setup the proper configuration on the SMF system as most of screen parameters looks strange and meaningless for me...

(Added latery added)

With the answers i already got here, it seems that i need "censorship" set-up instead of a "moderation one"

[Amacythe]

If I'm correct you've already answered question A.

on question B2

permission by forum

but on this part of screen i cannot click on each of my 20 forums in the list.
the only click i can do is on "global" and "local"
i dont know where and how to modify "global" parameters of my forums

Actually you do.  You said so yourself in question A5
Global is where everything is the same.
Local is when you set certain member groups to access that one local board.

To prevent guests from accessing your forum, you need to go to your Forum Configuration (the third in the group) and select Edit Features and Options (the top selection) and uncheck allow guests.  There are a few other places to disallow guests so read thru those options carefully.

[m20i02m]

Hello,

Thanx for your answer.
Sorry but i'm not used with the forums specific vocabulary...
And in my first post i may have mixed up the words. English is not my native language...

You should read "board" or "discussion" in most places where i wrote "forum", sorry about this...

I discovered that when i made the following, that is not what i entended to do:

To prevent guests from accessing your forum, you need to go to your Forum Configuration (the third in the group) and select Edit Features and Options (the top selection) and uncheck allow guests.  There are a few other places to disallow guests so read thru those options carefully.

When i do what you asked for, i avoid ANY guest to acces the SMF forum


In other words, i'd like for guest to access most of the SMF forum, ( they already are able to do this) allow them to see the polls but not the polls results



In the end, I'm not sure if i used the right words to describe question A.
I only want to be able for my visitors to put a message on the forum but
i want to validate or invalidate each of their post, that is what i call "moderation" ( maybe it's another word instead )

Its a very common feature of forums, but it looks very complicated to activate with SMF...
We only needed a button to click on each "Edit Features and options" screen connected to a specific board, discussion ( or whatever word should fit the best )

What a shame for a nice system like this one !

Do you know how to answer the other questions and sub-questions i asked ?

[Amacythe]

I am assuming you are the Admin of your board and will attempt to direct you by describing where to find the items I refer to as well as what they are.

In other words, i'd like for guest to access most of the SMF forum, ( they already are able to do this) allow them to see the polls but not the polls results

This would be in the Member Controls (second group) Edit Permissions (second option on the left of your control panel).  Modify Unregistered Guests (the top selection on the right) and select the appropriate options in that page.

I only want to be able for my visitors to put a message on the forum but
i want to validate or invalidate each of their post, that is what i call "moderation" ( maybe it's another word instead )

To the best of my knowledge this is not available yet.  If I'm wrong, I hope someone will correct me.

I'm not clear what other questions you have.

[m20i02m]

This would be in the Member Controls (second group) Edit Permissions (second option on the left of your control panel).  Modify Unregistered Guests (the top selection on the right) and select the appropriate options in that page.

Ok, i've found this and think i can do some of the stuff i needed. I must
go any thurther with this...

To the best of my knowledge this is not available yet.  If I'm wrong, I hope someone will correct me.

Ok that's why i didnt found it...

Do you know if the "moderation" feature like i need,will be included in the next version ?

By the way, why to use the word "moderator" in the SMF system if there yet no moderation available ?

[Daniel D.]

First of all - we help as fast as we can, not as fast as you want ...

I hope that the translation is ready and contains ALL translation strings. I recommened you to use english in the forum because we can help faster.
I hope you read yourself through the admin area, where all section should lead you to the right place (even if you use french as language) because the section are clearly named.

1. Why must a board beeing moderated? I don't see reason for it. Other way: Make two people "Global Moderators", they can moderate every board after that.

2. Admin - Manage boards - permissions: Here you change the permissions of every single board which override the global permissions set in Admin - Manage permissions. If you choose "Local" - the specific permissions are used, if you choose "Global", the global persmissions are used under Admin - Manage permissions (see above).

Question C: You must get familiar with the permissions. You can change the things to match your wishes.
Remember: You can't learn driving a car on one day or walking through the world as a child. So please "work" with your board, try some things. It's not easy, but remember how long it tooks to speak in whole sentences!

[Amacythe]

Do you know if the "moderation" feature like i need,will be included in the next version ?

I don't know for sure that it isn't available in the current beta, nor if it will be in the next.

By the way, why to use the word "moderator" in the SMF system if there yet no moderation avaliable ?

A moderator is one that can moderate a post in a thread.  I think you are looking for a way to 'censor' posts.

I really need to head to bed.  I hope someone else can pick up here if you need more help.

[m20i02m]

Thanks a lot every people for your help and explanations.

First of all - we help as fast as we can, not as fast as you want ...

I'm so sorry, i wouldnt like to be unfair when asking for fast answers...

At late july, I just have to quit the provider where my actual forum stays and my trials showed me that my new provider cannot host properly the forum system i already use.
I'll have then to go in holidays  and let the moderation and censorship beeing handled by a friend...

I found that "SMF system" was more powerful and easier to administrate  that others i just tried... and decided to install  on the new provider.

I hope that the translation is ready and contains ALL translation strings. I recommened you to use english in the forum because we can help faster.
I hope you read yourself through the admin area, where all section should lead you to the right place (even if you use french as language) because the section are clearly named.

Yes right - of course ALL the strings are translated, but i'm not used to undersand full of their meaning in the forum stuff vocabulary...
I'll learn to understand them...

1. Why must a board beeing moderated? I don't see reason for it. Other way: Make two people "Global Moderators", they can moderate every board after that.

The law changed recently in france, and now every webmaster is responsible of unlicit content and may get law pursuits and embarassements if content is unfair.

Some webmasters have already been leaded to justice, and obviously, it's not the thing i want....
Then i ( or another person that i choose) have to read EVERY message and delete it if content is un-appropriate...

A moderator is one that can moderate a post in a thread.  I think you are looking for a way to 'censor' posts.

Yes, it's looks like i need more a censorship system than the available moderation system...

2. Admin - Manage boards - permissions: Here you change the permissions of every single board which override the global permissions set in Admin - Manage permissions. If you choose "Local" - the specific permissions are used, if you choose "Global", the global persmissions are used under Admin - Manage permissions (see above).

Ok ,thanx for explanation

Question C: You must get familiar with the permissions. You can change the things to match your wishes. Remember: You can't learn driving a car on one day or walking through the world as a child. So please "work" with your board, try some things. It's not easy, but remember how long it tooks to learn to speak in whole sentences!!

Yes, you're right, i agree with you...

[Daniel D.]

You can use the french board in this forum, too.

[m20i02m]

You can use the french board in this forum, too.

Yes, i did and someone told me to ask in the main and english board because they didnt knew how to set-up what i'll call "censorship" by now...


I think many other french SMF users will agree with  development of a "censorship" mod

Thanx a lot

[Daniel D.]

You can censor every word you want. Look in Admin - Edit Censor Word. Or you can disable names that should not be used: Admin -  Set Reserved names.

[m20i02m]

You can censor every word you want. Look in Admin - Edit Censor Word. Or you can disable names that should not be used: Admin -  Set Reserved names.

thanx but, too  late... I already setup these nice and handful two features ! 

I think it would be difficult to make the censorship that i need on an automatic basis based only on a censored word list...

In the other words, it would be more powerful and more safe for me if i can make the system work like this:

(1) people post a message
(2) message is invisible (or access denied) for anyone, but the authorized censors/moderators ( included me obviously   )
(3) me or other authorized moderator have to read the message for checking if proper content
(4) me or other authorized moderator choose whether the post would be visible (access granted) or not for every visitor of my website

[Daniel D.]

Post moderation is planned in a mod or in a later version.

[m20i02m]

Post moderation is planned in a mod or in a later version.

Ok thanks a lot, in the meantime ,i'll make a "patch" on my own

Grateful thanks

[m20i02m]

Post moderation is planned in a mod or in a later version.

When will this mod be available ?
I still need to moderate messages before to make them available

[Daniel D.]

"Perhaps" in the next version of SMF. Don't know more.