Copying topics

[SpelingMistakes]

I have one problem – I lead one restricted forum – smf 1.1.1 – and I don't have too much packages installed under my forum –

This is problem: Almost all my forum is inaccessible by guest's members except one which is specially created for guests. There is one topic which can be viewed and read – There is lots of data about forum in whole, but I want little more advertising – I want some of good topics to show to those guests. I will choose what topics I want to show to public and to those guests, which will represent my forum in best look. I have stuck in next problem – I didn't find a way to copy topic – I find buttons for merge, split, stitch, and to move – there is not anything which sounds like a copy! – But I want all those topics stay under security of forum, because I want members of forum to continue posting in it, but I also want parts of those topics to show to guests.

Any clue how to solve this?

I have tried to improvise, but I didn't find a way to do that

PS I am under Helios_Multi theme

I already search forum but without luck – only which I find is one topic from September 2006 where somebody tell that isn't for the moment implemented into SMF (Maybe something changed since than) - and I found some funny remarks for using a ctrl + c and ctrl + v options

Like some before me already mentioned – I want to copy topic – with post and nicknames of all users – like it already is – Nothing similar to ctrl + c  and ctrl + v

Is anything similar implemented – do any mod allow to do that – any suggestion will be appreciated.

[SpelingMistakes]

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=147522.0
I started same topic already there – but I saw that I wouldn't get any response, and because of that I transfer topic here – It is up to you to close and lock that – if you want – I didn't want to make noise and problems with doubling topics, but chance to get an good answer here is maybe much better than there

[SpelingMistakes]

Can anybody sugest something ?

[perplexed]

If you only want part of a topic to show then that might be tricky lol

Otherwise I was going to suggest you move the topics to the guest area and then put a redirection in place from where it used to be.  So it will move from the old board to the guest board, members will still be able to post in it but it will now be in the board that guests can see

[SpelingMistakes]

But I want whole topics to be visible to guest - that is catch - I want some of best topics to chose, make copy in part of forum visible too guests and I am satisfied –

1. I want to make a COPY of a whole topic in that exact moment which means other post on that same topic in restricted part of forum posted after coping will not be "copied".

2. I want all members which post on that specific topic to be visible in that copy also.

I didn't find any idea how to work this out

I have an idea about what I want to ask here – Can I copy that topic and all its post in MySql database? Put it in some place etc etc – Is it something about somebody can advise me? I lead my own forum, I am on my own server, and I can look at MySql database. I have tried to modify some messages directly in data base
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=138161.0 when I working on this problem – I noticed I can do that – But that is one and this is some beyond of my knowledge of database organization, etc. One is simply edit something – and totally different is trying to copy it into some other place (or even totally same – latter I can move it where I want it)

[SpelingMistakes]

I bump on something someone already suggests.
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=147887.0
There is no response, but I imagined that will maybe solve something I need – and he also

That will do trick here also. This feature will be obviously need when making rules for all forum – It can be interesting to make something which will allow some topic to be viewed form from several different boards. (Board rules for example – its boring to copy same text one every board.

1. This will look like additional feature (maybe allowed only to moderators and administrators) which can be selected – If selected another one will be become active – select boards – which will allow to check all boards where I want this specific topic to bee visible. That mean I can put all rules in only one board, and simply editing where I want some of them to be showed I can manipulate with all them. That is case also for above mentioned best topics for advertising – Whit that option implemented into forum, I can edit start post of the topic, select that additional feature, chose part of forum which guest can see and job is done. (Like for rules)

2. Another one suggestion is that mod can add some kind of space above all topics in some board where will be showed those "chosen" topic – That can count for all what everybody want – rules, advertising etc – even special announcement. Etc etc

I must mention that I am much more for first suggestion

[perplexed]

there is also the global announcements mod which you might find useful

[SpelingMistakes]

That is not even close to what I want

All those what I want is feature which work in case of manipulation with topics

Main thing is making a ,,copy"of a topic or showing same topic on several boars (rules etc) (same thing deferent approach)

I explained evolution of my idea

Your suggestion doesn't have any connection with those I mention – or I didn't catch something!

[perplexed]

I know what you want to achieve.  It would appear that it isnt possible currently so I was offering possible alternatives to help you out.

Perhaps you could make a mod request and someone could tell you whether it could be done or not and if anyone would offer to make it for you

[SpelingMistakes]

That is far away from my idea

[perplexed]

I know what you want to achieve.  It would appear that it isnt possible currently so I was offering possible alternatives to help you out.

Perhaps you could make a mod request and someone could tell you whether it could be done or not and if anyone would offer to make it for you

as I said, see above

[SpelingMistakes]

Isn't this very interesting feature - I mean idea - How to achieve that people form development team look at this and do something about it?

[SpelingMistakes]

Nothing yet

[SpelingMistakes]

Nothing yet

[SpelingMistakes]

Ok Can somebody read again whole this topic from beginning – I think we have here very good idea – Is there anything similar to this – I mean copying topic to some other board which will make totally new one in db.


MAIN IDEA IS STILL THE SAME

1.   That will be copy of something which already exists on the forum in that exact moment – which means no other future topic will be copied.

2.   That will make new one topic which can be put where needed

3.   All data from original topic will be copied also

All other tricks for guests I already solved – I only need good and fair chance to show what is inside of this professional forum – nothings less than that.

I am in this field almost a year – by statistic from my forum – and I learn much – but I don't know simple solution for this – I think there is possibly simple solution which will do this trick – I think all what must be done is that somebody from professional SMF team read this and I think they will know some easy solution - because this is some kind of work with some parts of MySql DB trough forum.

[karlbenson]

I read it.

What you are after could be done in a way other than copying.

Basically store a list of 'special topics' in your admin area.
Assign a forum for it to be applied in
Alter the queries when viewing that boardindex, messageindex, topic.

[SpelingMistakes]

I read it – I understand it – but I cant even think what to do to work out your idea

Can you please explain little bit more – Any tip will be appreciated?

Thanks in advance

Spel

[karlbenson]

Rather than copying topics which creates additional problems (for counting stats and such)

Just have a textarea somewhere in the admin area where the admin can enter topic ids they want to use to show guests.
Add a checkbox when creating/modifying a board in the admin area to set a board as a 'special board' (eg like redirect boards mod has)

And then alter the mysql queries so that special forums will show all your special topics inside them (and adjust the stats accordingly)

[SpelingMistakes]

I am not a coder – I don't know to do that – I am "left" to already prepared solutions, or something written in manner – you must do this by correcting this or something similar. (Like simple tutorial)

Let's see now what I understand

If I understood you good

1.   Text area somewhere in the admin area – isn't board – but some place in administration panel or ....
2.   Add a checkbox when creating/modifying a board – I already have category with several boards in it which is only part accessible to guests. There I have lots "copy paste" topics I made coping material from original topics. That's surely isn't good solution – because not Evan one nickname isn't show up there
3.   There is noting accessible to guest except that category – with name Demo Forum. There is like I already sad several different boards because of differences in showed topics.
4.   If there is solution to make some topics special which will than show them to guest (if I setup that like that) that will help – but redirecting topics don't do that – If we talk about Oldiesman modification.
5.   If that "only" read from DB and show topic to the other place, that mean whole topic will be showed up and if I "possibly" modify something that will also make influence on original topic – which really inst what I want because if I speak with professional people about some topic, and I decide to advertise that to public, I surely don't want to show all topic – That is a must because we speak about sensitive stuff and I don't want all those be accessible to all.

Forum I lead not only need administration approval, but also we have kind of voting which allow moderators to vote for all new members - That is something they know before even registering – Only its professional CV is ticket to forum.