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Introduction to Simple Machines
« on: August 12, 2003, 06:12:54 PM »
For anyone of you who don't want to search the whole forum for information about Simple Machines, I made a simple introduction to Simple Machines for the Nordic users on a separate board. But, many of you guys would want to know what, why and when about SMF.

First of all, let me tell you that YaBBSE and SMF have almost the same developers, so sort of speaking this might be more only an update than a complete new forum, since you will recognize a lot of the members and the features on this forum.

The Beginning

At July 17th, the YaBBSE developers had a Chat Session on IRC to give the users a possibility to get the latest information about the changes, and also get to ask some questions directly to the dev team. At that chat session a lot of information came out and it was all about what was going to be Simple Machines.

Why the name?

The main reason why the dev team wanted to change the name from YaBBSE was that the original YaBB, the CGI version, contained a lot of errors and when it came out i 1998, it wasn't such a great success before all the bugfixes arrived. And not forgetting that there were more advertising for YaBB than for YaBBSE, which was released for beta testing in December 2001. SE stood for Splinter Edition. The differences between YaBB and YaBBSE was that YaBBSE was built on PHP and MySQL. But, despite the name YaBBSE many people got too many associations to the original YaBB and that was made a problem for the dev. The name Simple Machines might have a history, but my little hint is that it got its name because it can run simple on a computer (machine). Simple Machines.

YaBBSE <-> SMF

Version 1.5.4 of YaBBSE became the Final release of the YaBBSE forum software. This release was very fast and didn't contain that much errors as version 1.0.0. During only a year YaBBSE got many members and many felt that the forum needed something better. Simple Machines is much faster than YSE1.5.4. A lot of the reason for that is the code, which is better than in YaBBSE. It's more logic. There have also been made a lot of new features that have been implemented in this new forum. See below for a list of some of the few new changes that have been made. But the kernel is somewhat unchanged, and you will anyway recognize the dev team behind Simple Machines. [Unknown] can also inform that the Charter Members thing get them many possibilies, they get to test the new versions before anybody else.

Charter Members

Charter Members is a group of paid members. You might call it a VIP-member who pays to get more than regular members. When you are a charter member you get the possibility to recieve extended support for your forum software and even get your forum upgraded by the dev team personal! To be a charter member you have to pay an annual fee of $49,95, in Euro it is €43,91.

A simple list of some of the changes from YaBBSE 1.5.4

Here is a list of changes I can remember:

  • Enhanced look on the Profile screen
  • Enhanced look in the Admin Center
  • New smilies
  • Faster kernel and better code
  • New BBC tag icons
  • Child boards - boards inside boards
  • A little different translation system with separate files for each section
  • To ways to change your Forum Template
  • Possibility to see Total time Logged In

Welcome to Simple Machines. I hope you could understand some of the stuff I've written.
Note: This is translated, poorly, from my original text in Norwegian. Sorry for some translation errors.

When is it ready for release? Well, you might ask, but this forum is still under creation as it's still in Alpha status, and the regular members have to wait for the Charter Members to finish their Beta testing when it's ready.

Thanks for reading the whole text :P
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Re:Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2003, 06:14:26 PM »
nice writeup :)

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Re:Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2003, 07:03:49 PM »
*steals it and puts it up at yabbse.org.*

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Re:Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2003, 01:04:11 PM »
Nice to see that everybody could understand what I've written. Over 300 views in only 20 hours is not bad. :)
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Re:Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2003, 05:09:39 PM »
Very nice.  When you put it in this way, i was able to understand some hanging questions that i had. Thanks man  :D

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Re:Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2003, 05:36:05 PM »
I'm glad I could help you to find your answers.
You could say in this text I've tried to make a simple introduction that answers most of the FAQs that people have asked.
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Re:Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2003, 11:25:29 AM »
Its looks very good already, keep up the good work :)

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Re:Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2003, 04:07:12 AM »
SMF looks very promising, I especially like the speed, and I was wondering how close to release it is? Of course, I don't expect an exact date - more like do you think it'll be a matter of weeks or months?

Cheers.
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Re:Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2003, 06:39:19 PM »
Any ideas then? :)

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Re:Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2003, 07:37:46 PM »
Sorry, can't tell you :P.  Charter Members know..... but, then, they paid us $50 to sqeal. (j/k.)

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Re:Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2003, 10:24:14 PM »
Sorry, can't tell you :P.  Charter Members know..... but, then, they paid us $50 to sqeal. (j/k.)

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Re: Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2003, 11:36:53 PM »
Yeah, I shoulda read this board before I asked all my stoopid questions about YABBS versus SMF..

In any event, I'm sold and I'm gonna switch.

Looks good..

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Re: Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2004, 07:38:29 PM »
I have set up several YaBB SE forums, and have been extremely pleased with their flexibility and power. I am really looking forward to SMF!!
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Re: Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2004, 05:12:10 PM »
thats very interesting how YaBBse bregan and how yabb for perl was very "buggy" i used both yabbs and i would love to use SMF :)

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Re: Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2004, 04:41:11 AM »
it just really what i need !
thx !
next i will express my idea in detail

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Re: Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2004, 06:11:36 PM »
Thanks for the excellent explanation.

At one time my Hosting company had reccommend strongly against both YaBB and YaBBSE  for security reasons. How are security issues addressed differently in SMF?

How secure is SMF?

Thanks very much. 
P.S. I certainly like the easy-to-use editing functions in Preview mode.  :)
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Re: Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2004, 06:16:24 PM »
I get a kick out of places that tell their users not to use certain packages due to security. Do we all stop using Windows because it is loaded with holes?

Does anyone realize the number of holes reported for phpBB and recently a few more for Invision?

Unfortunately, security holes seem to be an issue. The day that NASA or the FBI stop getting hacked is the day I'll personally start to worry about security in software I use (like Windows). If places like that are getting hacked into, anything can be hacked.
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Re: Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2004, 06:21:22 PM »

Does anyone realize the number of holes reported for phpBB
Do you have some stats/numbers about that? I argu with my friend wich is better, phBB or SMF :P
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Re: Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2004, 06:32:50 PM »
Just search for phpBB hits on the security sites out there or the security focus mailing list.
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Re: Introduction to Simple Machines
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2004, 06:35:36 PM »
Jeff,
Of course there will always be hackers and hacks and nothing is every 100%. My query was not intended as a criticism. Just a question. How secure is SMF and what makes it so?
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