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you cannot redistribute SMF files so people can't release modded versions.  Only thing you could do is make one huge mod that installed all of the various mods you wanted at once.

may be.. but I have two points :
- Did SMF been produced under the GPL licence? Which I know that is allowing this but with keeping the copyrights.. correct me if I were wrong.. & remember that this is not about editing the source code.. its about enclosing the mods & styles with or without combining them in the setup process...

- If I was wrong in point 1 & this was prohibited as you said.. what about:
Mods packs..?
can we combine many mods & styles with an easy installation script..?
I believe there is nothing with that theory..
By the way.. If there is something like that please link it here..
thanks for the quick respounce.. (& forgive my horrible English..)

Quote from: Tesla Trooper on February 21, 2007, 07:55:12 AM
- Did SMF been produced under the GPL licence?

It's not GPL but a custom open source licence permitting modding (and distribution of mods) but prohibiting redistribution of core code.

1- SMF is not GPL.  SMF is released under a specific license which says "you may not re-distribute..." as well as "you must have the copyright..."

2-   If you ask the mod authors and they allow, then there is no reason you could not make a massive mod-package

the other reason that a pre-modded version would be a bad idea is that the SMF team would be assumed to support such a version.   We have enough people with questions and support on the basic installation (which is strenuously tested before release and avoids such over-load of "features" (undesired!))

Oook everybody..
Replace "Modded Edition" in the poll question with "all Mods pack" (as is it descibed in point 2) & continue with voting & ideas & PROJECTS.. (project you made or made by others...
peace..

I wouldn''t say that Vbulletin is still the forums biggest player, maybe it has been once, but not any more. I see more and more websites using SMF, or switching to SMF from other forums. SMF is becoming the forums biggest player, and that''s a fact.

Personally, I think that SMF is perfect just the way it is, all the mods that a person would want to have can be easily downloaded from the mod site and installed via the package installer. That''s what makes SMF the greatest of forums, the simplicity of figuring it out even for people like me that lack technical skills. That''s what I loved about the SMf the very first day I used it

the point is, I know that *I* would not want an "all mod pack"

I have very few mods installed on my sites... and I am VERY picky about what mods I actually install.
A mod should onl be added to a system is there is a need for that particular function on that system...

For example, I have the custom profile fields mod installed on 40konline, to track what armies each user plays...   I do not have that mod installed on my other sites.

etc etc and so on...

the nice thing about mods is that you can pick and choose which "features" you want to add....

Quote from: Kindred on February 21, 2007, 09:38:35 AM
I have very few mods installed on my sites...

I have *none* (apart from my own hacks), although I'd like to see Jack.R.Abbit's super-sticky topics back.

But I've never understood why some folk seem to install mods almost for the sake of it (do they think mods are compulsory for real SMFers or something?), and can't imagine why anyone would want the bloat and potential conflicts/security risks of 'all known mods'!

Still i don't agree with ppl who says SMF is biggest player! Comparing to vB, it lacks in many features! But thier Date of Births are different! Obviou vB is the biggest player! Simple examples, SMF doesn't allow two attachments of same name by diffe users! No proper PM! No affiliate option (atleast Developers didn't release a mod, where users are ready to pay for it)! It's very very hard to customize SMF with other themes, during upgrade (hell).... In vB, all of these are  simple things! I am not saying SMF is not good one! But vB is a great one (if you have $160, one good server)

A SMF forum with all the mods installed would eat your resources big, big time.

I should try it one day and see how much queries it would take up heh.  

Quote from: nitins60 on February 21, 2007, 10:02:42 PM
I am not saying SMF is not good one! But vB is a great one (if you have $160, one good server)

FWIW, vB lacks some features that I regard as essential in SMF (particularly with regard to tracking what's read). But we're all entitled to have opinions and make our choices accordingly.

To me, SMF is and will remain the best forum software there is out there

Quote from: Isaac on February 21, 2007, 10:17:27 PM
A SMF forum with all the mods installed would eat your resources big, big time.

YOu mean exactly how vB is a resource PIG? haha

Meh, I somewhat agree.  I've had ideas that the SMF team work with a seperate version of SMF, one aimed at more "public forums".  From what I've seen, the users I work with that use SMF, add at least 10 mods per a public forum, where as ones for private added less than 5.

The mods that SMF chooses over features sometimes surprises me.  Basic ones such as control over the subject length box, and minor matters like that are what seperate vB from SMF.  The major problem is, not all SMF customers know about PHP, or have the time to learn it, but it takes minor edits to some mods out there (IE: Editing language files for seperate themes), to run properly.

Eitherway it goes, even though this is what I want, I doubt the SMF Team may be using this idea.  If you take a look back, SMF is for simplicitiy, while we're talking about advancing it to become more than the base it's at right now.  SMF is simplisitic, if you don't agree with adding mods, then move over to vB.

Don't Worry Dude.
I am making one What Exactly You said
With all the Mods

Quote from: Master of Eternity on February 23, 2007, 12:06:39 AM
Don't Worry Dude.
I am making one What Exactly You said
With all the Mods

Not sure if you read the previous posts but let me restate what they said.  It is NOT allowed.  People have made it in a past and we have gotten their hosts to remove it.  Just don't waste your time.  We wont allow it .

Quote from: Master of Eternity on February 23, 2007, 12:06:39 AM
Don't Worry Dude.
I am making one What Exactly You said
With all the Mods

Have you read the SMF license? Take a look at http://www.simplemachines.org/about/license.php.

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1d: Any Distribution of this Package, whether as a Modified Package or not, requires express written consent from Simple Machines LLC.
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2c: Any Distribution of a Modified Package or derivative requires express written consent from Simple Machines LLC.

So you are NOT allowed to redistribute ANY SMF files, unless you obtain written permission from Simple Machines LLC.

And, even if this was allowed, you'd need to get permission from all the authors of the mods you're planning to use (or code your own mods).

guys,

don't litter your SMF installations with unneccesary code. Its not "cool". It just isn't. Just install what you need. That's why you have a packet manager. And in the long run your site will be faster, more secure, less complicated and therefore more user friendly.