The first beta version of mkportal x SMF is available.
http://smf.mkportal.it
Languages: English and Italian.
The installation is very simple and fast.
Remeber this is a beta version.
;)
I just installed it on my local server, very easy to install :), I am going to test it out a bit ;)
Looks good. going to wait until they get it workin for single login etc.....
Quote from: trenchteam on November 23, 2004, 05:22:17 AM
Looks good. going to wait until they get it workin for single login etc.....
???
How many login you think mkportal has?
Mkportal is fully integrated with SMF it use the users tables db of the board the session of the board ecc...
Looks very promising. :) Tested it on my local site first..but somehow the forum won't open inside MKPortal - only outside - even it I choose "inside" in the CP. Any ideas why?
Follow the instructions in readme.txt
You must modify a file of the board to view the forum inside the portal.
Ah...did not read that bit about the ob_exit replacement. Neat solution. :)
Now the forum works as it should.
One small thing tho...the "set size" option - does it have a value somewhere? or is it fixed to around 800?
I would assume its in the theme some where :P but I have not checked. This is a very cool portal system, I am glad you are taking the time to develop it for SMF. One thing I noticed even with english chosen for the language, some elements are still in italian :-\
Quote from: Bloc on November 23, 2004, 06:12:10 AM
Ah...did not read that bit about the ob_exit replacement. Neat solution. :)
Now the forum works as it should.
One small thing tho...the "set size" option - does it have a value somewhere? or is it fixed to around 800?
Read this:
http://smf.mkportal.it/forum/index.php?topic=7.0
Quote from: Jerry on November 23, 2004, 06:18:11 AM
I would assume its in the theme some where :P but I have not checked. This is a very cool portal system, I am glad you are taking the time to develop it for SMF. One thing I noticed even with english chosen for the language, some elements are still in italian :-\
No no, only the blog templates are in italian because they are not part of mkportal.
They are done by the community.
But you can find the translation in english of the blog templates.
I posted on the site about this.
The titles of the block are not in italian but are language independent.
When you install the portal the titles used the name of the files and it possible that
there are file named in italian.
But the titles of the blocks are only indicatives.
U can change it in PortalCP->Blocks->Position.
Thanks, Meo. Saw your reply at your site.
wow!!!!! thx for this
Hey thanks for your work on MKPortal and thanks for the Simple Machines Intergration. :D
All I can say right know is you rock, I am very excited to install MKPortal. MKPortal looks much better than what I was planning on using. ;)
I have a four day weekend coming up and will be testing all I can on this beta release. ;D
Thanks again.
Well I was going to install it and check it out. I find one major flaw with the portal though. Let me quote the ReadMe.txt:
QuoteIf you have the board index on your website root you should move it in a subfolder
(as shown in the example above).
That just doesn't fly with me. I have mine as a root for a reason. Could I redirect the root to this subfolder? Sure I could but to me that defeats the purpose. One important thing to me for any kind of software, is it should not force me into a certain way of doing something for no apparent reason. Considering plenty of portals do not force you to use a out of place sub-directory system I do not see this being a valid solution.
Please tell me you have a work around for this because it does look like a good solid portal. I have been waiting for Lunabyte to finish theirs but I have been waiting for them or quite a while now. So I would really like to explore some other solutions. Let me know if you can help me. Thanks.
Quote from: Mad on November 23, 2004, 06:54:37 PM
One important thing to me for any kind of software, is it should not force me into a certain way of doing something for no apparent reason.
The fact that the index.php for the portal would overwrite the index.php of the forum and mess up your forum seems the be the apparent reason... well to me anyways ;) :P
Yes, some portals use the index.php of the forum, and some don't...
Right and the fact that this one conflicts makes it not a wise choice.
I have been playing around with it a bit and seems like a good option of SMF + portal to me. The fact that it must reside in these directories is not that hard to obey...and maybe the author will make it easier. It sure makes it clear where everything must go. ;)
Quote from: Mad on November 23, 2004, 08:08:43 PM
Right and the fact that this one conflicts makes it not a wise choice.
I have never really seen a portal that does not need a seperate directory from your forums :-\ I am sure configuring it to use a subdirectory for the portal and the main directory for the forums shouldn't be too hard. You can easily set a redirect (with htacces on apache servers) to the portal instead of the main directory ;)
http://www.lunabyte.com
There go look at one ;)
Thats not even SMF - and we are talking SMF here?
MKPortal does not contain SMF, just the portal. From what I can see LSP starts from within Yabbse..and thats not the same thing.
Quote from: luponero on November 23, 2004, 05:49:00 AM
Quote from: trenchteam on November 23, 2004, 05:22:17 AM
Looks good. going to wait until they get it workin for single login etc.....
???
How many login you think mkportal has?
Mkportal is fully integrated with SMF it use the users tables db of the board the session of the board ecc...
hmm. gonna check that out today. I tried to sign up for the SMF portal. Then tried to log into MKPORTAL. two different logins. then I realized the demo was differnt site than the MK PORTAL main. HAHA. I LOVE IT! THANKS!
I've been testing the portal system all day. I must say I am definately happy. I love the intergration and the flexibiliity. BYE BYE MAMBO! You have made me a CONVERT! THANKS ALOT!
Yes. I think MKPortal is the flexibiity solution for the good integration with SMF.
I'm happy 8)
One question. I would like to get rid of all the boxes at the top of the forum such as key Stats, user info, and news box. I also wanted to get rid of the line of buttons, so it looks more integrated. How do I do this? ;D
It would mean adjusting the theme files I think....I thought of doing it with Helios, but kept it because there are some parts that dont show up in the blocks. Like "new members for approval" and "forum in maintenace".
Can someone point me to the lines I need to remove. ;)
LMAO of course it isn't SMF. If it was I would use Enigma in a heartbeat. You will not find a portal IMO that compares to it. I would definately not be looking at this one if it WAS an SMF portal. Anyways, after looking closer at this portal it does work on a root directory it is just not explained very good in their poor documentation. Secondly this portal doesn't allow you to set who sees each block. Very bad idea. Anyways read my post next time before telling me I am wrong. It was simply stated most portals are like this so I showed you one that isn't and that blows away all others that I seen for YaBB.
I made a new site and it uses SMF. I need a good portal. This portal really has the potential to be good but I see two problems that will prevent me from using this one right now.
1.) No block permissions. This is a basic and necessary thing.
2.) Support at their site so far has been unresponsive even on a basic question. The admins can answer other questions just not mine. If I had asked a tough question I could understand but it was basic and just simply ignored. Bad bad service.
The support team at www.lunabyte.com is awesome. Hell they were even nice enough to fix bugs in YaBB that the YaBB developers said they wouldn't fix. Not just normal problems either we are talking a major security flaw. Anyways, good luck with this portal it seems to have great potential. However you really need to not ignore users and you HAVE to get block permissions going. It may be in your plan but since you did not reply to my post on your own site I wouldn't know.
MKPORTAL is looking real nice! I installed it on to my forums, the only thing is, how hard would it be to get it working with the index being called something like index2.php instead of index.php. I have a website at index.php and I want to use MKPORTAL as the center of my forum but using something like index2.php, as MKPORTAL makes it so its index file has to be where the forum directory is, which is where my websites index file is.
In fact I would like it if it could have the whole portal inside my forum directory, the directory and index file in the directory. That would be nice.
Also I like the thing that puts the forum in the portal, but it would be nice if that was used as an additional option rather then a replacement. So you could view the portal and forum together and the forum alone.
I like all the features on it though, and it was quite easy to install.
Great work! :)
What you are describing is Enigma ;) From my understanding a 2.0 release is a couple weeks away. If that is the case i can wait for it because it is well worth it.
I hope these guys get everything going good because a little competition is good for the end-users :)
Quote from: Mad on November 25, 2004, 10:23:00 PM
LMAO of course it isn't SMF. If it was I would use Enigma in a heartbeat. You will not find a portal IMO that compares to it. I would definately not be looking at this one if it WAS an SMF portal. Anyways, after looking closer at this portal it does work on a root directory it is just not explained very good in their poor documentation. Secondly this portal doesn't allow you to set who sees each block. Very bad idea. Anyways read my post next time before telling me I am wrong. It was simply stated most portals are like this so I showed you one that isn't and that blows away all others that I seen for YaBB.
I made a new site and it uses SMF. I need a good portal. This portal really has the potential to be good but I see two problems that will prevent me from using this one right now.
1.) No block permissions. This is a basic and necessary thing.
2.) Support at their site so far has been unresponsive even on a basic question. The admins can answer other questions just not mine. If I had asked a tough question I could understand but it was basic and just simply ignored. Bad bad service.
The support team at www.lunabyte.com is awesome. Hell they were even nice enough to fix bugs in YaBB that the YaBB developers said they wouldn't fix. Not just normal problems either we are talking a major security flaw. Anyways, good luck with this portal it seems to have great potential. However you really need to not ignore users and you HAVE to get block permissions going. It may be in your plan but since you did not reply to my post on your own site I wouldn't know.
There are permissions. Only certain members of my forum can view blocks based on what I set my permissions for. Check the CP PORTAL button and look thru it better!
Mad,
the version of mkportal x SMF is only the first beta.
Use it only to test the portal, the code is not stable and secure.
This version is based on an old core code (Mkportal PR 10) and it have not
all the features of Mkportal 1.1 final x IPB (you can see mkportal 1.1 @ http://www.mkportal.it)
I can't support you in this moment, I am working so hard.
There are four sites to support: Mkportal x (IPB, MyBB, PhpBB, SMF).
As soon as possible the versions of Mkportal for all the boards will be accorpated
ad the support will be centralyze on an unique site.
Quote from: Mad on November 25, 2004, 10:23:00 PM
LMAO of course it isn't SMF. If it was I would use Enigma in a heartbeat. You will not find a portal IMO that compares to it. I would definately not be looking at this one if it WAS an SMF portal. Anyways, after looking closer at this portal it does work on a root directory it is just not explained very good in their poor documentation. Secondly this portal doesn't allow you to set who sees each block. Very bad idea. Anyways read my post next time before telling me I am wrong. It was simply stated most portals are like this so I showed you one that isn't and that blows away all others that I seen for YaBB.
I made a new site and it uses SMF. I need a good portal. This portal really has the potential to be good but I see two problems that will prevent me from using this one right now.
1.) No block permissions. This is a basic and necessary thing.
2.) Support at their site so far has been unresponsive even on a basic question. The admins can answer other questions just not mine. If I had asked a tough question I could understand but it was basic and just simply ignored. Bad bad service.
The support team at www.lunabyte.com is awesome. Hell they were even nice enough to fix bugs in YaBB that the YaBB developers said they wouldn't fix. Not just normal problems either we are talking a major security flaw. Anyways, good luck with this portal it seems to have great potential. However you really need to not ignore users and you HAVE to get block permissions going. It may be in your plan but since you did not reply to my post on your own site I wouldn't know.
I
have read what you wrote, and as I said you compared a system that lies beside the forum and a system that is merged/from within. Again, its not the same thing. LSP er good, no question of that, but as you say, at present its not for SMF - and MKPortal is. If you want LSP to be developed for SMF, why not ask them to give it a try? (or maybe there are plans , then I stand corrected).
I am not saying MKPortal is without flaws, things can always be enhanced - but as it is looks good to me.
Regarding your questions that dont get answered...what are you called over there? I cant see any "Mad" in the memberlist. ...
Quote from: luponero on November 26, 2004, 04:49:52 AM
I can't support you in this moment, I am working so hard.
There are four sites to support: Mkportal x (IPB, MyBB, PhpBB, SMF).
I think that is great that you spend all this time working with so many different forum softwares. I have seen a fare share of portals that only worked with one forum software. It sure must get tiring keeping up with all of the forums. :P I even recall mkportal back when I was an InvisionBoard user and I thought it was quite nice.
Keep up the great work and I look foward to see the future to this great portal. ;)
Well I did and I didn't say it didn't have ANY permissions.
Please tell me where I can say who can see my custom blocks. If it is that hard to find there is some serious structure changes needed to the admin area. I mean do I have to write my own custom php permissions for each block at the beginning? I can only see that way blocking the content in the block not the block title let aloen the entire block itself. Sure some permissions are in there for premade blocks but none that I found for custom blocks. considering custom blocks will probably far out weigh the default ones on any given site I would say it doesn't make sense.
If I am wrong please by all means show me where these settings are. Some things on this portal are simplistic and straight-forward. If this custom block permissions section exists, then I am missing it and there is a layout issue.
If you read the mkportal site ( http://www.mkportal.it ), it looks like it is very easy to code into the block's php files. they key to understanding any system like this is read thier forums and site. Can't just go in complaining about something, because some one else has probably addressed the issue ;)
I am not complaining. Although, I do not find their methods entirey pleasing. There are some basic things that come into play for me. Also, I had posted at their site first only to get no reply. You shouldn't tell people to do stuff if you do not know if it was attempted.
Anyways, I will simply be waiting for Enigma 2.0 hopefully it will be out soon. Their methods of control are much better. Thanks though. And for the record for the like 3rd time or somehing I do think mkPortal has potential, unfortunately their staff is not quite large enough to get everything done that needs to be. They have so far done some pretty good stuff, but I am sure even they agree their could be some improvements.
Quote from: Bloc on November 26, 2004, 05:00:49 AM
Regarding your questions that dont get answered...what are you called over there? I cant see any "Mad" in the memberlist. ...
Well I am actually registered at http://smf.mkportal.it and it is as Mad ;) If it should be at the main site then that is yet one more thing not very clear.
I think smf.mkportal.it is just so you can see it in action ;)
My forum is outside the portal now. I didnt change it. I clicked the forum link and its now not embedded. Im not sure why? Anyone experiencing the same problem? ???
I will be watching this closely. I am desperate to get my members up to SMF (still running Enigma like you). I was thinking about Mambo, but Mambo has some drawbacks (mainly lack of some features I want and the difficulty with placing modules).
Quote from: trenchteam on November 30, 2004, 12:14:46 AM
My forum is outside the portal now. I didnt change it. I clicked the forum link and its now not embedded. Im not sure why? Anyone experiencing the same problem? ???
make sure you read the readme and have that new code in Subs.php(that the correct file?)
Also could check your PortalCP and see if the settings are correct ;)
yeah, i did the subs thing. It was working for the first 4-5 days then just decided not to.......lol. Still haven't figured it out. :(