I just saw this as a vB mod and I thought that some users on some forums would actually find it quite useful. I don't think SMF logs quotes, but it's worth a shot...
When someone gets quoted and the quote is posted - a user should be able to recieve a PM or Email notification with a small message, and a link to that post.
SMF 2.0 RC3. No admin options - but each user has the option to have it PM, Email, or off.
As I explained the last time this was requested, can't reliably be done.
Quote from: Arantor on May 16, 2010, 07:13:43 AM
As I explained the last time this was requested, can't reliably be done.
Any idea who is responsible for this mod?
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That isn't SMF. It can't be reliably done in SMF without a LOT of work.
Quote from: Liam. on May 16, 2010, 07:12:27 AM
I just saw this as a vB mod and I thought that some users on some forums would actually find it quite useful. I don't think SMF logs quotes, but it's worth a shot...
When someone gets quoted and the quote is posted - a user should be able to recieve a PM or Email notification with a small message, and a link to that post.
SMF 2.0 RC3. No admin options - but each user has the option to have it PM, Email, or off.
I quote you using the button. Email sent.
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When someone gets quoted and the quote is posted - a user should be able to recieve a PM or Email notification with a small message, and a link to that post.
I use C&P here with the tag and no parameters. No email.
Unless you expect that a quote tag should be compared with the contents of the last - say - dozen posts in the thread... which is unreliable.
SMFPacks Alerts Pro mod does this... and a bunch more. Quote alerts is one of the main reasons I chose to purchase the Alerts Pro package. Check it out at www.smfpacks.com.
And it picks up the cases Live pointed out?
Does it notify if the post is edited? (Does it notify if the post didn't have a quote before and subsequently gets one?) There are many, many more similar sorts of scenarios too.
Quote from: Arantor on September 27, 2012, 03:09:48 PM
And it picks up the cases Live pointed out?
Does it notify if the post is edited? (Does it notify if the post didn't have a quote before and subsequently gets one?) There are many, many more similar sorts of scenarios too.
If you mean "Does it send an alert of a quote is posted without attribution"... no. How could it?
And therein lies my statement that it is unreliable.
I almost never hit the quote button, so in the thousands of posts I made, it'd never be picked up. As for 'how', I actually suggested one possible route, what, five posts ago?
Quote from: Arantor on September 27, 2012, 03:09:48 PM
And it picks up the cases Live pointed out?
Does it notify if the post is edited? (Does it notify if the post didn't have a quote before and subsequently gets one?) There are many, many more similar sorts of scenarios too.
I just checked and ... yup ... if you post without a quote... then edit your post and add a quote (with attribution). It does send a QUOTE ALERT.
:)
But no... it won't send a quote alert if you don't attribute the quote. How could it. It needs to know who to send the alert to (obviously).
Quote from: Arantor on September 27, 2012, 03:14:47 PM
And therein lies my statement that it is unreliable.
I almost never hit the quote button, so in the thousands of posts I made, it'd never be picked up. As for 'how', I actually suggested one possible route, what, five posts ago?
You're one of the few then. It's been my experience that the vast majority of people attribute their quotes on my site (by hitting the quote button)... but I do have the SELECT-A-QUOTE mod and MULTI-QUOTE mod running ... so ...
EDIT: BTW - The Vbulletin version of the mod (obviously) also requires attribution... so the alerts mod I mentioned should satisfy the OP without question... that is, if he's willing to cough up the dough (well worth it IMHO!).
QuoteI just checked and ... yup ... if you post without a quote... then edit your post and add a quote (with attribution). It does send a QUOTE ALERT.
What happens if you posted with a quote in it then edit it? Does it re-send the notification?
QuoteBut no... it won't send a quote alert if you don't attribute the quote. How could it. It needs to know who to send the alert to (obviously).
As I said, half a dozen posts ago, you could conceivably look through the last dozen posts to see if anyone wrote it...
QuoteYou're one of the few then. It's been my experience that the vast majority of people attribute their quotes on my site (by hitting the quote button)... but I do have the SELECT-A-QUOTE mod and MULTI-QUOTE mod running ... so ...
On your site, yes. But we went away and implemented a whole bunch of functionality in Wedge specifically for all the people we have that copy/paste quotes so they can get just the bits they want. (You press quote, then anywhere inside that quote you can press shift-Enter, which ends that quote, starts a new one after the cursor so people can quote a big post but reply to it in bits, without even leaving the keyboard.)
Quote from: Arantor on September 27, 2012, 03:21:10 PM
QuoteI just checked and ... yup ... if you post without a quote... then edit your post and add a quote (with attribution). It does send a QUOTE ALERT.
What happens if you posted with a quote in it then edit it? Does it re-send the notification?
Depends. If you've seen the alert already it does give another alert. If you've NOT seen the alert it yet, it just ads a number to the alert (2 quote alerts, 3 quote alerts, 4 quote alerts, etc) to the same alert so they don't stack up.
QuoteBut no... it won't send a quote alert if you don't attribute the quote. How could it. It needs to know who to send the alert to (obviously).
As I said, half a dozen posts ago, you could conceivably look through the last dozen posts to see if anyone wrote it...
Cumbersome at best... and not really required. Like I said, the vast majority of my users attribute their quotes. VERY VERY few actually go through the time of cut/paste then adding quote tags. Much easier to highlight and then click QUOTE (select-a-quote ROCKS).
QuoteYou're one of the few then. It's been my experience that the vast majority of people attribute their quotes on my site (by hitting the quote button)... but I do have the SELECT-A-QUOTE mod and MULTI-QUOTE mod running ... so ...
On your site, yes. But we went away and implemented a whole bunch of functionality in Wedge specifically for all the people we have that copy/paste quotes so they can get just the bits they want. (You press quote, then anywhere inside that quote you can press shift-Enter, which ends that quote, starts a new one after the cursor so people can quote a big post but reply to it in bits, without even leaving the keyboard.)
Sounds great. But what does this guys request have to do with
Wedge... at all?
QuoteDepends. If you've seen the alert already it does give another alert. If you've NOT seen the alert it yet, it just ads a number to the alert (2 quote alerts, 3 quote alerts, 4 quote alerts, etc) to the same alert so they don't stack up.
That could be used to annoy someone, if you edited a post over and over and over.
QuoteCumbersome at best... and not really required. Like I said, the vast majority of my users attribute their quotes. VERY VERY few actually go through the time of cut/paste then adding quote tags. Much easier to highlight and then click QUOTE (select-a-quote ROCKS).
Cumbersome at best, no argument. But here we see the problem. The majority of YOUR users attribute their quotes. The majority of MY users do not.
It's also easier for *you* to highlight and press quote. It isn't for me.
QuoteSounds great. But what does this guys request have to do with Wedge... at all?
The point was that we have a LOT of people that cut/paste. I was trying to illustrate my point with examples, just as you've been expansive about telling me how much your users love what you have.
Not sure where this discussion is going...
Someone asked about the functionality. I pointed out where he could find said functionality. Nothing more...
Should the OP be interested in the Alerts mod... go for it.
BTW - I have no vested interest in SMFPacks. I just use a couple of Nibogo's mods... that's it. The Alerts Pro mod is well worth the asking price... Same with the Aeva Media 2.1 mod... well worth the price... even with the 4 errors it generates every time the BBC button or the drop down menu is used. Much like the Alerts mod... it's not 100% ... but it gets the job done, right?
;)
QuoteSomeone asked about the functionality. I pointed out where he could find said functionality. Nothing more...
And I was inquiring about the variety of edge cases in it.
QuoteMuch like the Alerts mod... it's not 100% ... but it gets the job done, right?
If it doesn't get the job done, something should generally be done about it unless there are good reasons why not (like the fact Aeva is unsupported and that fact was well publicised before the decision to purchase was taken)
QuoteNot sure where this discussion is going...
You were telling me about what you use and why it's so wonderful, and I was pointing out that it doesn't work for everyone.
QuoteBTW - I have no vested interest in SMFPacks. I just use a couple of Nibogo's mods... that's it.
You can see how it looks like a sales pitch, though?
If a happy customer is a sales pitch, so be it. I'm as guilty of raving about the Aeva Media mod (for the most part)... as well as the badges system from SMFHacks... etc. etc. etc. I simply was pointing out an option for the OP. You've obviously got a chip on your shoulder for some reason when it comes to this topic.
OP: If you're interested in the Alerts mod, check out SMFPacks.com. The alternative, it appears, would be to wait until 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, whenever for Wedge... I guess?
QuoteThe alternative, it appears, would be to wait until 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, whenever for Wedge... I guess?
I love your enthusiasm. It's gems like that that almost gave me a breakdown earlier this year, thanks for reminding me.
Quote from: Arantor on September 27, 2012, 04:20:10 PM
QuoteThe alternative, it appears, would be to wait until 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, whenever for Wedge... I guess?
I love your enthusiasm. It's gems like that that almost gave me a breakdown earlier this year, thanks for reminding me.
Can dish it but can't take it... it seems. How typical.
Bottom line, you're being a dick for the sake of it. The guy asked a question. I answered. Nothing more. Because you evidently have an issue with Nibogo (or me), you felt the need to be... a dick. Well, guess what. I can be a dick too.
And I'm likely a bigger dick than you.
Trust me.
QuoteCan dish it but can't take it... it seems. How typical.
Oh, you have no idea. I mean, if you split up with your partner of ten years, had to move house, situation regarding employment changing (changing clients when you're self employed is potentially a big deal), learning that your mother has heart issues, learning that your grandmother has dementia (and you having to be legally involved in her affairs), that you have health issues of your own and still have to put up with arrogant people like you expecting everything, and you can take all that, great, I'm pleased for you. I tried to handle it, and almost had a breakdown. I still got personal abuse from people on various forums in that time, but hey, that's cool, that I can deal with.
QuoteThe guy asked a question. I answered. Nothing more. Because you evidently have an issue with Nibogo (or me), you felt the need to be... a dick. Well, guess what. I can be a dick too.
Actually, no. The guy asked a question, I answered with some detail, someone else provided a case that highlights one of the major problems.
You came in with an alternative answer that works great for you. And likely for many other people, too. But you're actually ramming it down my throat as to how wonderful it is and how it deals with all your needs - but when I point out that there are plenty of cases it wouldn't suit and bring up an example of how they came to the fore, you get extremely defensive.
I'm being a dick because I'm being treated like one. Yes, you are indeed likely a bigger dick than I, and round these parts, that takes some doing.
You play the victim... real well.
Self taught or is there a class?
I wasn't trying to be a victim. I was trying to point out that some people have issues too big for them to handle and I learned - the hard way - I couldn't cope with it. Is it a bad thing to admit you have limitations? Is it wrong to get to the point where you finally can't cope and almost cave in?
I'm not a victim. I'm a survivor. I'm getting there, slowly. It's that sort of mentality that means every time I get pissed off with the abuse here I take a break and then a couple of months later I'm back, trying to help people and provide support, until the cycle begins again. And I keep coming back because I'm too stupid to break the cycle because I keep giving into the feeling that I can help people and I'm not.
Wicked! was right. No good deed goes unpunished.
All this nonsense because I suggested a possible solution to the OP's question.
Sheesh.
I bet you're a real joy to live with.
You suggested a problem, I asked for things that could potentially be a problem. You went out of your way to ram down my throat how my concerns were not a problem for you, but to me they are a valid problem.
In other words, I'm peeved that you're not taking my concerns seriously, and you're peeved because I'm making a deal out of issue that you think isn't important. My concerns are important to me, just as your concerns are important to you. Only judging by this, you can't get your head around that. Maybe I'm wrong but that's how it escalated.
Quote from: Arantor on September 27, 2012, 04:43:32 PM
You suggested a problem, I asked for things that could potentially be a problem. You went out of your way to ram down my throat how my concerns were not a problem for you, but to me they are a valid problem.
In other words, I'm peeved that you're not taking my concerns seriously, and you're peeved because I'm making a deal out of issue that you think isn't important. My concerns are important to me, just as your concerns are important to you. Only judging by this, you can't get your head around that. Maybe I'm wrong but that's how it escalated.
Actually... I'm not peeved in the slightest. I'm actually a little amused to be honest. My initial response was to the OP. You pointed out some issues with the implementation. I tested a couple things you pointed out (I honestly didn't know if adding a quote via an edit rather than in the initial post would alert or not). I pointed out the one thing that did work ... and one that didn't.
I also expressed my experiences thus far with the mod.
At no point was any of my posts "about you" until you made it so.
Therein lies my amusement. You just don't like to be wrong... :D
Well sir... it happens.