Firefox is the new Internet Explorer... Could some explain why this is happening

[Biology Forums]

Could someone use inspect element to clarify why this is only happening in Firefox?

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[Biology Forums]

Got it, add display: inline-block; to ul element...

[Gwenwyfar]

I'm inclined to say the opposite, chrome is the one full of weird bugs lately, ff just works as intended

[Biology Forums]

Firefox is becoming way too cluttered. Chrome always seems to run quickly, however I agree, I use Chromium and CoolNovo (variants of Chrome).

[Gwenwyfar]

That's weird. I still don't understand why everyone says that. I just have normal ff, about 1-3 small personal plugins installed, and I can leave 30 tabs open all day long and never have an issue. I leave one tab with a simple page open on chrome for a few hours and it starts to lag and eat memory like hell. When I switch over to the window its all laggy.

I don't notice pages load any faster there either, seems pretty much the same thing.

[NanoSector]

Firefox's engine is not optimised for speed (Servo is in development). If you're not doing exotic stuff, everything should be cross-browser compatible... Yes, even IE11 should work just fine.
Chromium is not a variant of Chrome, it is the base of Chrome.

IMO Chrome is taking the web aspect way too far. It's not just a browser, it wants its tentacles everywhere in your system.
FF on the other hand focuses on being an extensible *browser*. Just that. No apps, no bull******, no tentacles included.

[Gwenwyfar]

IMO Chrome is taking the web aspect way too far. It's not just a browser, it wants its tentacles everywhere in your system.
FF on the other hand focuses on being an extensible *browser*. Just that. No apps, no bull******, no tentacles included.

Agreed I only have chrome installed because I need to check for bugs there for my job...

[NanoSector]

IMO Chrome is taking the web aspect way too far. It's not just a browser, it wants its tentacles everywhere in your system.
FF on the other hand focuses on being an extensible *browser*. Just that. No apps, no bull******, no tentacles included.

Agreed I only have chrome installed because I need to check for bugs there for my job...

That's what I use Opera for. Same engine, less BS.

[Biology Forums]

That's weird. I still don't understand why everyone says that. I just have normal ff, about 1-3 small personal plugins installed, and I can leave 30 tabs open all day long and never have an issue. I leave one tab with a simple page open on chrome for a few hours and it starts to lag and eat memory like hell. When I switch over to the window its all laggy.

I don't notice pages load any faster there either, seems pretty much the same thing.

What you described is the exact *opposite* of what I experience Quite strange...

I forgot why I deleted Opera, maybe I should give it another try.

[NanoSector]

The days I used chrome it became painfully slow after having my usual amount of tabs open (30+), to the point it took my entire system on its knees. No issues with Firefox, it's almost as if it puts the non active tabs in sleep mode or something.

Not to say Firefox can be amazingly slow as well, if doing multiple things at once (downloading, streaming internet radio in a tab, loading a big page, ...) it occasionally chokes as well, but it doesn't take anything else down with it unlike chrome.

The only browser I haven't seen choking too much so far is Internet Explorer. To think of it, IE11 actually is blazing fast, faster than Opera. Something in me is looking forward to IE12 (there are rumours of it having a decent extensions system and a Chrome/FF like interface). That would actually make a decent browser.

No browser ever is perfect. Ideally I'd like a browser with the speed of the latest Opera, combined with the flexibility of Firefox.

[Pause]

Personally I'm a fan of Pale Moon, which is a fork of Firefox.

@Shuban: You also appear to have an issue with overlapping text underneath your login box, though I've no idea whether it is present in regular Firefox or any other browser.

[NanoSector]

I'd use Pale Moon if it had the Australis interface and had the new Sync functionality. Ideally the latter.

[Biology Forums]

Personally I'm a fan of Pale Moon, which is a fork of Firefox.

@Shuban: You also appear to have an issue with overlapping text underneath your login box, though I've no idea whether it is present in regular Firefox or any other browser.

That's not right... I used to position relative for the parent and position absolute for the forum data positioned to the bottom-left... never seen that before on any browser What browser are you testing?

Problem with IE is it's inspect element feature. Not flexible and it's damn slow to render and open up. I also find that opening new tabs also opens up new windows instead of keeping everything contained as you find in Chrome and Firefox

[Pause]

Personally I'm a fan of Pale Moon, which is a fork of Firefox.

@Shuban: You also appear to have an issue with overlapping text underneath your login box, though I've no idea whether it is present in regular Firefox or any other browser.

That's not right... I used to position relative for the parent and position absolute for the forum data positioned to the bottom-left... never seen that before on any browser What browser are you testing?

Problem with IE is it's inspect element feature. Not flexible and it's damn slow to render and open up. I also find that opening new tabs also opens up new windows instead of keeping everything contained as you find in Chrome and Firefox

Pale Moon 25.0.2, but ignore me as it was my fault and caused by having the Social Blocking List enabled in Adblock Plus.

I'd use Pale Moon if it had the Australis interface and had the new Sync functionality. Ideally the latter.

I think the lack of Australis interface is specifically what enticed many users to switch to it recently, as many were happy with the interface Firefox had and didn't want to switch.

It does have a new Sync functionality of its own however (http://www.palemoon.org/sync/), but it appears it is based on the one Firefox used to use rather than the new one.

Firefox compatibility mode is enabled as of the latest versions (as some sites wrongly disable things that it actually supports as they don't recognise it), but you can disable it and have it identify properly as its own browser in the Advanced section of the Options.

[NanoSector]

Just ran Pale Moon 25.0.2 and Firefox 33.0.3 side-by-side but I really can't feel a difference in speed, and my FF is even more loaded with add-ons.

[Pause]

Fair enough.

[Gwenwyfar]

That's what I use Opera for. Same engine, less BS.

Ah, didn't know that. Used opera only a few times, years ago, when I was still using linux as main os and chrome wasn't even very known yet, thought it was considerably different because it has its own prefix for some css properties.

What you described is the exact *opposite* of what I experience Quite strange...

Indeed. I wouldn't say I have anything unusual on my computer, all recent good hardware, recent windows version, everything pretty much default, few programs installed or that run on background, none that change the OS. Perhaps just a difference or limitation from the way the browsers work and the hardware.

Over on linux ff is being pretty slow lately though, no idea why, didn't check to see if chrome was any faster. Could be just linux choking up on the internet as well. Sad days, linux used to be much faster than windows before, not sure if its something on recent versions of ubuntu that changed that :/

The days I used chrome it became painfully slow after having my usual amount of tabs open (30+), to the point it took my entire system on its knees. No issues with Firefox, it's almost as if it puts the non active tabs in sleep mode or something.

Not to say Firefox can be amazingly slow as well, if doing multiple things at once (downloading, streaming internet radio in a tab, loading a big page, ...) it occasionally chokes as well, but it doesn't take anything else down with it unlike chrome.

No browser ever is perfect. Ideally I'd like a browser with the speed of the latest Opera, combined with the flexibility of Firefox.

Yeah, same thing. Today I even saw the first time ever that a page broke, for absolutely no apparent reason, on chrome. I really never saw this happen on any other browser. It was my forum page that was open, and it just crashed. It wasn't a flash crash, the page has no flash or js at all other than the default js that comes with smf, yet it simply crashed the entire page, and chrome was the usual slow and laggy from leaving 1 tab open.

FF has the occasional browser crash as well, but its considerably uncommon, rarely a bother. When just using it more normally instead of trying to make it load 10 tabs at once or too many flash pages open it almost never has any speed/lag issues at all for me.

Agreed, though I'm fairly happy with ff besides a few smaller issues, personally. I tried a few others and liked some of their aspects and even used some as main browser for a while, but that was long ago, not even sure some of them still exist. I'm pretty lazy on installing new stuff

Now if only there was a chance of a new os being created with all the pluses of the big 3 together and it becoming popular... oh boy. Too bad its most likely staying just a dream for at least another decade.

[live627]

Yeah, Opera switched to Webkit in ~v12...

[Illori]

Yeah, Opera switched to Webkit in ~v12...

15+

[Gwenwyfar]

My idea of how opera looks like is pretty outdated then