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Warning Moderators about locked topics???

Started by Rasyr, October 15, 2007, 12:04:37 AM

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Rasyr

Ok, I run a set of SMF forums (SMF 1.1 RC3 -- lots of mods installed), and I have something like 10 different Global Moderators helping out.

The problem is, that sometimes, folks can step on each other's toes, specifically where one moderator locks a topic, and then another comes along and responds to it, not noticing it is locked (happens most often when one opens a window, takes a long time responding and then does not review any new posts that they are warned about prior to finishing their posts).

Is there any way to set things up so that my global moderators can at least receive a warning that a topic has been locked (much like the warning that others have posted before they posted their response)??

Any help would be appreciated!!!

Rumbaar

Like how you get a warning if someone has posting in the thread while you were typing.
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Rasyr

Quote from: Rumbaar on October 15, 2007, 04:16:30 AM
Like how you get a warning if someone has posting in the thread while you were typing.

Yes, that is the type of warning I want to implement.

But no sure where or even how to implement such a warning.

Dragooon

I believe there is no such mod, But you should upgrade SMF over to 1.1.4, As it fixes a lot of bugs and security holes.

Rasyr

I already searched through the mods, I was hoping for  either  somebody pointing to something I missed, or perhaps being able to help me figure out where in the code, I would need to make changes  (and what changes to make) to implement such a warning.

As for upgrading to 1.1.4, I haven't had any problems or security issues with the forums I run. And as I stated before, I have a lot of mods implements, including a number of things that don't use packaged Mods.

Upgrading would not be an easy process to say the least.... (I would have to try on a test site and then try to move the test site to the live site (if there are no DB changes between the versions....)


Dragooon

You haven't had, But that does not means you will. Your SMF version is quite old you should upgrade.
Just my 2 cents.

Rumbaar

Yeah the update from 1.1 RC3 to 1.1.4 isn't a simple step, some planning is certainly required.
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Quote from: Rumbaar on October 15, 2007, 06:34:53 PM
Yeah the update from 1.1 RC3 to 1.1.4 isn't a simple step, some planning is certainly required.

It is very not simple, cause I have 26 different Mods installed through the package manager, and several of them have been tweaked by me in some fashion. Plus I have the equivalent of 5 or 6 other "mods" that I made by hand to the code.

In order to update, I would have to get the latest versions, and try to see if there updated versions of the Mods I am using, and then try to figure out or remember what mods I did by hand (had to do some by hand cause of other mods as well).

Updating is never again going to be an easy task on these forums.... :)

rsw686

Quote from: Rasyr on October 15, 2007, 10:32:24 PM
It is very not simple, cause I have 26 different Mods installed through the package manager, and several of them have been tweaked by me in some fashion. Plus I have the equivalent of 5 or 6 other "mods" that I made by hand to the code.

In order to update, I would have to get the latest versions, and try to see if there updated versions of the Mods I am using, and then try to figure out or remember what mods I did by hand (had to do some by hand cause of other mods as well).

Updating is never again going to be an easy task on these forums.... :)

What I would do is download your files and diff them against the source for 1.1 RC3. Keep that diff file, which contains all the modifications. Install a clean version of 1.1.4 on a test site. Hand apply the code changes from the diff. Yes you will not be using any packages, but since you tweaked the packages this shouldn't matter.
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Rasyr

Actually, my best bet for upgrading would be to download/find everything and then just attempt to to the upgrade on a mirror, and then once done, put it all into place after running any required SQL files.

However, I have no plans to upgrade right now. Nor will upgrading solve the issue I came to ask about.

1) If a topic is locked, and a mod tries to reply, OR if he previews his reply (if he started the reply prior to it being locked), he is given a warning that the topic is locked.

2) If the Mod answers using the Quick Reply, he never receives such a warning

3) If the mod starts a reply BEFORE the topic is locked and then it gets locked, if he does not do a preview of his post, he never receives a warning that the topic was locked.

However, if either #2 or #3 happens and somebody else posts, they are ALWAYS given a warning that posts have been made, even having the quick reply throw them to the preview rather than posting.

What I want is to be able to have locked topics work the same way for moderators. That if they attempt to post, it checks to see if the topic is locked and if it is, it throws them to the preview bit, and gives them the warning.

Telling me to upgrade my forum software, especially when the newer version has no impact on the issue I am asking about  is a good bit less than helpful.


metallica48423

To my knowledge theres no such feature or mod.  I would reccommend making a post requesting it in Mod Requests (no pun intended.)

There are quite a number of security fixes in versions since RC3, so i can only reccommend upgrading at the first chance you get, just a thought :)

One idea for the future is to make a mod package of your custom modifications.  Its initially a lot of work but it really pays off down the road :)
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metallica48423

in addendum, are you 100% positive they don't have the 'warn on new replies' option turned off in their look & layout preferences?

I'm not sure whether to classify this as a bug or an inconsistency or simply a request
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Rasyr

I have used a test user which I had given Moderator abilities to, to test the functionality of the warnings. So, I know that  that is not the issue

(Note: there is nothing wrong with the "warn on new replies", I am wanting  to make it warn that thread is  locked (or has been locked since they began viewing the  thread and their posting on it.

If I am using quick reply, and somebody posts before I hit the post button, it kicks me to the post page, and gives me a warning about the other post.

If I (or another moderator) am using quick reply and somebody locks the thread before I hit the post button, it posts the message. It does not warn me that the post has been locked.

Note that this is only for the Global Moderators. For regular members, it works just fine with no problems., taking them to the "sorry but this is locked" page like it should.



greyknight17

This should be by design. As a Global Moderator, you can post to locked topics.

If you want a mod made for this, we can move it over to Mod Requests.

Rasyr

Quote from: greyknight17 on October 18, 2007, 08:01:52 PM
This should be by design. As a Global Moderator, you can post to locked topics.

If you want a mod made for this, we can move it over to Mod Requests.

Not really looking for a specific Mod. I just want some help in figuring out what I need to do so that Global Mods are warned that a topic has been locked.

Yes, GMs can post to locked topics. I do not want to take this function away. I just want to warn them that somebody else locked the topic - the same way that a poster is warned that other replies have been made when they try to post.


metallica48423

have you requested a mod for this?  probably would be the best way to see this.

That, or i can move this to smf coding discussion for you :)
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