So I decided to try out phpbb3 on a high-activity forum...

[Vekseid]

I mean, it could not possibly have been so much worse than SMF 1.1.

I still disbelieve. This is absolutely insane.

No user tracking.

No direct download of attachments or avatars.

No integrated spell check.

No trash forum.

No lazy module handling.

No ignore PMs.

EVEN MORE BROKEN JOINS.

Phpbb3 appears to be taking up about 50% more of the CPU per user click than smf 1.1.

At ~2% of the database size.

I'll do siege tests later, but damn.



PHPBB3 has
* a split outbox/sentbox
* ignore posts
* custom bbcode
* topic bookmarks
* post drafts
* pm filtering rules
* checks e-mails for valid mx records (why doesn't smf 2 do this? It's like, ten lines of code...)

I think the topic bookmarks are the key one, though. It's gotten to the point where I'm going to be hunted down and shot (or so I've been threatened) if I don't have that feature working again within hours of upgrading to smf 2.0.

If not immediately : /

Still though... I really regret 'trying out' phpbb3. It's a mess, on many levels.

[shadow82x]

Thanks for using SMF. phpBB has come a far way though and there product is still nice. Obviously I personally like SMF better though or else I wouldn't be contributing.

* a split outbox/sentbox
* ignore posts
* custom bbcode
* topic bookmarks
* post drafts
* pm filtering rules

You can ignore posts and use PM filtering rules in SMF2.0. I dont really see a point in bookmarks using the SMF notification system though.

[Vekseid]

Thanks for using SMF. phpBB has come a far way though and there product is still nice. Obviously I personally like SMF better though or else I wouldn't be contributing.

You can ignore posts and use PM filtering rules in SMF2.0.

Ooh nifty.

It's 'nice' but by what sensible measure is their no user tracking? Or direct download of avatars (I'd really like to be able to 'move' people...)

I dont really see a point in bookmarks using the SMF notification system though.

This sort of attitude is why I'm really looking for alternatives. I'm grateful to the SMF developers and community, of course, but this reminds me of the phpbb team's refusal to include quick reply.

Of course it's not 'needed'.

* The notifications are not accessible with one click, by default.
* Notifications pop up an annoying 'are you sure?' when being enabled/disabled, by default.
* Notifications send e-mails, by default.
* If you want e-mails for some and not others, you can't, without extending the schema.
* Notifications have all sorts of silly distracting controls.
* If you run a popular role playing forum, introduce it and even talk about the potential of it being lost for a short while, you will get death threats. >_>



Though I'm not sure why you are telling me what I need, to be honest.

[Antechinus]

The bookmarks mod has been updated to work with SMF 2. I agree it's a very good mod and much more convenient than notifications (which I hardly ever use).

[青山 素子]

* checks e-mails for valid mx records (why doesn't smf 2 do this? It's like, ten lines of code...)

This can cause over 30 second delays when doin the check if you use a host with a broken or bad DNS server. There are a lot of hosts out there with these (and why I'd like to see hostname checks off by default too).

Also, a domain doesn't need an MX record to get mail. Fallback - previously the default - behavior is to use the A record for the right half. Some domains still use this method, although most use the MX method.

I dont really see a point in bookmarks using the SMF notification system though.

This sort of attitude is why I'm really looking for alternatives. I'm grateful to the SMF developers and community, of course, but this reminds me of the phpbb team's refusal to include quick reply.

Please note that ShaDow82x is a beta tester, not a developer. His opinions are his alone and do not reflect the opinions of the developers or the SMF team.

I would have little use for a bookmark system (I can use my browser's functionality just fine), but I can see where it might be useful. Perhaps it might get added in a later version. Until that time, you can look to our modification community.

[Vekseid]

This can cause over 30 second delays when doin the check if you use a host with a broken or bad DNS server. There are a lot of hosts out there with these (and why I'd like to see hostname checks off by default too).

Yeah, I got hit by that, though again - it's an optional component. And once during a user signup is nothing compared to dns lookups on each access.

Better would be a radio
1: No checking
2: Check DNS (A record)
3: Check MX
4: Verify account (though I find this to be a bit on the invasive side)

Also, a domain doesn't need an MX record to get mail. Fallback - previously the default - behavior is to use the A record for the right half. Some domains still use this method, although most use the MX method.

True, but see above.

Please note that ShaDow82x is a beta tester, not a developer. His opinions are his alone and do not reflect the opinions of the developers or the SMF team.

I would have little use for a bookmark system (I can use my browser's functionality just fine), but I can see where it might be useful. Perhaps it might get added in a later version. Until that time, you can look to our modification community.

Ah, sorry, I just get that attitude and go *twitch*.

Well, I was basically expecting to write it myself as it wasn't around when we first needed it. That one exists makes it easier >_>

It's immensely valuable when people wish to keep track of scores of threads, between machines (and browsers) and so on.