Pay to remove copyright?

Started by oshman, May 17, 2010, 04:10:13 PM

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becool

Well, case rested :) You  know im happy to have smf on the bottom of my forum as well. Its such a great product I may add.

Liam.

Quote from: angiexx1 on May 22, 2010, 07:04:52 PM
No I wouldnt want to list everyone there at the bottom of my forum its way to much, but one single and very simple copyright that links to where it all comes from is fine for me completely.

Which is why there is index.php?action=credits, however is underused and should be put as a link somewhere on all SMF installations to save it from being pretty pointless :/

angiexx1

Lol Liam php goes right over my head


smp420

IMO if you don't want a copyright then don't use software made by somebody else. If you can't make it yourself somebody deserves credit for providing it, and as you did nothing but install it you shouldn't take the credit for it. I think people should just be glad SMF is free.
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Liam.

Quote from: smp420 on May 24, 2010, 04:30:21 PM
IMO if you don't want a copyright then don't use software made by somebody else. If you can't make it yourself somebody deserves credit for providing it, and as you did nothing but install it you shouldn't take the credit for it. I think people should just be glad SMF is free.

Ditto. That quote pretty much sums everything up from all of these sort of topics.

Also, angiexx1, it's nothing to do with PHP, for your site for example, go to http://www.tutz2tagz.com/smf/index.php?action=credits ...

[S-Y-N-C]

In my opinion, if you want to remove the copyright. You must atleast have to pay a small fee. But, i really don't mind. I don't know why people want to remove the Copyright.

beanstalkseo

I found this thread while running a site search to find out if I could pay to remove the copyright. :)

I'll just say that from the search you know what side I'm on and at the end of the day - it's all about choice and (on your end) ROI.  You could get a bit of link strength and perhaps a few visitors from a copyright to be sure but wouldn't it be better to just get paid?  Whether you agree or disagree that it's fair to require the copyright - wouldn't it be better to end the discussion by stating that for $50 (or whatever amount you saw fit) you can remove it so put up or shut up? :)

Just a thought.  I'd pay to remove it and was looking for a way to do it.  Why not profit from that?

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Dave

TurtleKicker

It's worth noting that this thread is really about "Pay to remove blatant copyright notice footer stuck on every page of a website" and not "Pay to remove legal copyright status" nor "Pay to remove copyright notice in the page source comments".

Maybe that distinction could relax some who got so offended at the idea. ;)

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Quote from: beanstalkseo on July 14, 2010, 01:48:22 AM
Whether you agree or disagree that it's fair to require the copyright - wouldn't it be better to end the discussion by stating that for $50 (or whatever amount you saw fit) you can remove it so put up or shut up? :)

Just a thought.  I'd pay to remove it and was looking for a way to do it.  Why not profit from that?

Your argument only works for those with a profit motive. The problem is that the team behind the software don't have one. The monetary benefit of charging for removal in every case is far less than the benefit they perceive from that notice being visible.


Quote from: sremick on July 14, 2010, 11:32:36 AM
It's worth noting that this thread is really about "Pay to remove blatant copyright notice footer stuck on every page of a website" and not "Pay to remove legal copyright status" nor "Pay to remove copyright notice in the page source comments".

Every page of a website? I operate several sites that use SMF for a forum. Some sections are using SMF to display posts, others are using SMF for permissions. Heck, I'm using the login status to determine if the site displays admin tools or not, and that tools section uses SMF's permission and authentication system heavily. None of those pages display the notice. The only time the notice displays is when SMF renders the whole page, such as in the actual forum section. I would hardly call that "every" page.
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Quote from: 青山 素子 on July 14, 2010, 12:10:15 PM
The only time the notice displays is when SMF renders the whole page, such as in the actual forum section. I would hardly call that "every" page.

Well obviously there are edge-case examples involving customized/edited sites in which the copyright notice wouldn't be displayed. However, it's fair to say that most SMF users don't use SMF as a subset for a larger customized site, and instead use SMF to power their whole site. For them, indeed the copyright notice is shown on every page.

The rest I would respond with has already been outlined in my earlier posts in this thread, so no need to repeat them again here. :) But my previous points stand.

YogiBear

I'm lost on this one. Why would anyone want to remove the copyright of the software they're using unless to try to pass off the software as their own?

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SMF copyright information is a must stay, a lot of people went to a lot of effort to make this software, there are literally billions of characters of PHP/MySQL/JS coding and probably more.

Paying to remove copyright:
That makes no sense for open source software, as nobody is here to make any money from it.
If, and a very strong IF, smf were to allow removal of a copyright it would be also free.

Even forums that you have to pay for, v Bulletin for example, hey have their copyright all over the place too, I'm not sure of their TOS, but I would safely assume they do not allow their copyright to be removed also, even though the forum is paid for, expensive too.



Credits action, I never knew that existed lol :) . nice.


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Quote from: ♪ JohnCcCcCc ♫ on July 14, 2010, 09:40:13 PM
Even forums that you have to pay for, v Bulletin for example, hey have their copyright all over the place too, I'm not sure of their TOS, but I would safely assume they do not allow their copyright to be removed also, even though the forum is paid for, expensive too.

They do offer removal of their public copyright line at the bottom. It's not a cheap thing, either.
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Quote from: 青山 素子 on July 14, 2010, 09:47:08 PM
Quote from: ♪ JohnCcCcCc ♫ on July 14, 2010, 09:40:13 PM
Even forums that you have to pay for, v Bulletin for example, hey have their copyright all over the place too, I'm not sure of their TOS, but I would safely assume they do not allow their copyright to be removed also, even though the forum is paid for, expensive too.

They do offer removal of their public copyright line at the bottom. It's not a cheap thing, either.

Still, that's for a paid forum, its really expensive, I bet their are plenty of other forums you pay for that do not allow removal of the copyright though, VB is just one I know of.


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Even phpbb, which is gpl will refuse support if the copyright is removed.
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