Looking for an award mod

[Illusive Man]

Hello, I'm looking for an awards mod, something like this: http://84e-forum.eu/forum/index.php?topic=55.0 [nofollow]

I should be able to upload my own medals and give them to members manually. I've tried some mods, but they don't work. Help

[margarett]

I think it should be an adapted version of this:
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=539
(because the resulting links are similar)
But this MOD is very outdated...

[Illusive Man]

Already tried it, but there was no option to grant users an award.

[Acans]

Attached is one that used to be available, here's the old mod topic for details.

http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=114701.0

I must warn you tho, there is no support for this mod as the authors no longer support it.

[Spuds]

I must warn you tho, there is no support for this mod as the authors no longer support it.

That is incorrect ... simply because a mod is not on the SMF site does not mean its not supported ... by your logic SMF2.1 is not supported 

The mod (all of mine) are on github ... that one is here:
https://github.com/Spuds/SMF-Member-Awards/tree/Branch_2.2

and the newer 3.x version is
https://github.com/Spuds/SMF-Member-Awards

SMF does not support the use of gitHub as the sole distribution of a mod and still be able to keep a mod thread open (for various reasons), thats why it was closed.  I chose to solely use github as my mod repository / bug tracker / wiki etc etc

PS the one you posted above is the unlicensed version, nuff said

[Neo_TE]

That is incorrect ... simply because a mod is not on the SMF site does not mean its not supported ... by your logic SMF2.1 is not supported 

The mod (all of mine) are on github ... that one is here:
https://github.com/Spuds/SMF-Member-Awards/tree/Branch_2.2

and the newer 3.x version is
https://github.com/Spuds/SMF-Member-Awards

SMF does not support the use of gitHub as the sole distribution of a mod and still be able to keep a mod thread open (for various reasons), thats why it was closed.  I chose to solely use github as my mod repository / bug tracker / wiki etc etc

PS the one you posted above is the unlicensed version, nuff said

I was also looking for an awards mod.

The question is "how the members of SMF" will come to know about your mod when its not listed/updated in the mod site?

I never knew that the "member awards" mod is being updated regularly and even a 3.x version is available.

[Arantor]

The question is "how the members of SMF" will come to know about your mod when its not listed/updated in the mod site?

Who said it was for your benefit? This is why I don't like writing mods for SMF much any more, too many people seem to believe it's all about them.

I never knew that the "member awards" mod is being updated regularly and even a 3.x version is available.

It's amazing what happens on Github. Especially if you bother to look at the accounts of the people who have worked on SMF in recent years. Most of them have all kinds of awesome on there - and they're quite happy that way.

[Neo_TE]

The question is "how the members of SMF" will come to know about your mod when its not listed/updated in the mod site?

Who said it was for your benefit? This is why I don't like writing mods for SMF much any more, too many people seem to believe it's all about them.

Whoa, I'm sorry but I don't understand how you are considering even a simple question as offensive and posting an offensive reply.

I never knew that the "member awards" mod is being updated regularly and even a 3.x version is available.

It's amazing what happens on Github. Especially if you bother to look at the accounts of the people who have worked on SMF in recent years. Most of them have all kinds of awesome on there - and they're quite happy that way.

Yes, I know Github is amazing but every user of any software is 'not' a developer to understand Github nor keep track of the changes.

[Arantor]

Whoa, I'm sorry but I don't understand how you are considering even a simple question as offensive and posting an offensive reply.

Go away and write 70 mods and see how many people expect you to write things for them.

I had people telling me I should be grateful that they were using my work. Yes, that's right, I was supposed to be grateful that people found the stuff I did in my spare time as so good that they chose to use it.

I really can't blame mod authors for doing their own thing and not publishing it here. There are so many people that are so greedy. Mod authors don't owe mod users anything, though listening to most of the people here you'd never believe it was true.

There are also people who actively campaign for things like 'if a mod author doesn't keep it updated, their work should be taken off them and given to someone else'. Yes, really.

By cutting out all that, and only using Github, it dramatically cuts down the hassle because only people who actually bother to take an interest (as opposed to anyone who just takes what they can get) will find it in the first place. The author gets to work on something in an environment they're happy in, the competent users get something nice to play with and everyone except the 'OMG I haven't got any mods' crowd is happy.

Yes, I know Github is amazing but every user of any software is 'not' a developer to understand Github nor keep track of the changes.

I fail to understand how that's our (mod authors/Github users') problem. Our responsibility ends at making the software.

[Neo_TE]

Go away and write 70 mods and see how many people expect you to write things for them.

I had people telling me I should be grateful that they were using my work. Yes, that's right, I was supposed to be grateful that people found the stuff I did in my spare time as so good that they chose to use it.

I really can't blame mod authors for doing their own thing and not publishing it here. There are so many people that are so greedy. Mod authors don't owe mod users anything, though listening to most of the people here you'd never believe it was true.

There are also people who actively campaign for things like 'if a mod author doesn't keep it updated, their work should be taken off them and given to someone else'. Yes, really.

By cutting out all that, and only using Github, it dramatically cuts down the hassle because only people who actually bother to take an interest (as opposed to anyone who just takes what they can get) will find it in the first place. The author gets to work on something in an environment they're happy in, the competent users get something nice to play with and everyone except the 'OMG I haven't got any mods' crowd is happy.

Yes, I know that only a 'very few people' are actually grateful to the open source devs (not just limited to SMF). The rest think that the open source devs owe it to the users. The world works that way. And the worst thing is that the users forget about that discontinued software and go on with their lives. Its the actual devs who keep thinking/worrying about it.

If the mod author is not interested in updating the mod, he/she can just delete the mod from the mod site so that end users can't complain any more.

In fact, the actual choice lies on the hands of the devs. Either they can keep developing (if they're still interested) software for the 'very few people' who are actually grateful or just terminate the project and move on. The end users don't care whatever.


Regarding github, yes, its very very easy to maintain a project over there. But again, its upto the SMF team to provide some kind of integration.

I fail to understand how that's our (mod authors/Github users') problem. Our responsibility ends at making the software.

Its upto the mod authors to just use the mod in their forum or upload it to the SMF mod site to make it available for the members of SMF.

But unfortunately, SMF doesn't 'officially' state/allow members to use mods that are not available in the mod site and its not something that we can't decide upon on a whole.

[All Colours Sam]

If you search for the name of some of my popular mods, my site appears at page 1 even though I haven't done anything to help boost my pages search result. The few people who actually did that, found my site and got support. I offer all my mods in my site, free to download with a mere click, users doesn't even need to go to github...

Thing is, people don't even bother to search, they just want everything served on a silver platter (aluminum if you're Napoleon). They even get mad if the packager manager didn't install the mod on their heavily modified forum.

Sometimes people do conform with not-so-well-made mods just because they appear here, I don't like to brag about my skills but I offer far better versions of some of the mods presented here, not only in terms of actual code but in terms of logistic.

But alas, people are lazy, (some people even get mad because they need to register on yet another site...). Can't do much about it, what I can do, however, is keep working on the things I like without been molested by angry users, those who bothered to look for my work do deserve to be helped and thats what I've been doing it and it has worked pretty well so far.

But unfortunately, SMF doesn't 'officially' state/allow members to use mods that are not available in the mod site and its not something that we can't decide upon on a whole.

Again, just because a mod doesn't appear here it doesn't mean the mod is bad coded or unsafe to use. It is plain silly, team members shouldn't state things like that as it only grows fear on the newbie user about using external mods, if anything all they need to say is: Its a mod hosted externally, we do not offer support for it"  but never, never to state things like "this is an external mod, use it at your own risk" or things like that.

[Arantor]

If the mod author is not interested in updating the mod, he/she can just delete the mod from the mod site so that end users can't complain any more.

Trouble with that is, everyone loses in that situation. Most of the 'not updated' mods work just fine with a little persuasion.

In fact, the actual choice lies on the hands of the devs. Either they can keep developing (if they're still interested) software for the 'very few people' who are actually grateful or just terminate the project and move on. The end users don't care whatever.

And when a dev continues to develop but doesn't do it in the exact way you like, you're complaining about it. That's where we are right now.

The mod is updated with new stuff - and because it's not right under your nose, you're complaining about it.

Its upto the mod authors to just use the mod in their forum or upload it to the SMF mod site to make it available for the members of SMF.

It's up to the mod authors to write it and make it available - and that's the sum total of their responsibility. Why should they have to jump through extra hoops because you wouldn't do a few steps yourself to keep you in the loop? Github has a notifications system, it can keep you updated as projects develop.

its not something that we can't decide upon on a whole.

Sure you can. You can decide to be mildly proactive and obtain notifications from Github or similar.

[Acans]

I'm liking 3.0, just installed and testing now.

Everything seems to be working great except one thing I just reported on GitHub

[Spuds]

By cutting out all that, and only using Github, it dramatically cuts down the hassle because only people who actually bother to take an interest (as opposed to anyone who just takes what they can get) will find it in the first place. The author gets to work on something in an environment they're happy in, the competent users get something nice to play with and everyone except the 'OMG I haven't got any mods' crowd is happy.

If there was a like button I would press it   Anyone who has written a mod of any larger functionality will, or has found, that the support thread turns in to a burden with the same questions asked over and over ... and when you don't respond in a couple of days you get snarked.  Over time its a meh, and you find something you did for fun and provided for free becomes a burden or a source of negativity ... so finding a way/place to make it fun again is needed.

Thing is, people don't even bother to search, they just want everything served on a silver platter (aluminum if you're Napoleon). They even get mad if the packager manager didn't install the mod on their heavily modified forum.

But alas, people are lazy, (some people even get mad because they need to register on yet another site...). Can't do much about it, what I can do, however, is keep working on the things I like without been molested by angry users, those who bothered to look for my work do deserve to be helped and thats what I've been doing it and it has worked pretty well so far.

Yup and Yup ...  Since the move its been a lot better situation for me ... and thats even taking GitHub in to consideration

Everything seems to be working great except one thing I just reported on GitHub

Right, back on track! .... Thanks, and as noted 3.0 still has a few bugs in it, but its getting there, and what I don't fix will become part of its charm lol.

[Arantor]

Anyone who has written a mod of any larger functionality will, or has found, that the support thread turns in to a burden with the same questions asked over and over ... and when you don't respond in a couple of days you get snarked.  Over time its a meh, and you find something you did for fun and provided for free becomes a burden or a source of negativity ... so finding a way/place to make it fun again is needed.

Holy carp... I'm not alone!

Mind you, my upcoming project is an SMF mod... but it's sure as hell not going to be distributed here for the above reason. There are other reasons, though, more complex than that (like the fact I'll be intentionally violating some of SMF's mod guidelines and I don't want to encourage others to do the same, even though I'm perfectly aware of what I'm doing and why I'm doing it)