Member Awards (2.0 Compatible!)

[KensonPlays]

I'm upset, this mod is basically a MUST for my website if I can't have it I might switch to phpBB....

[C4G-TK]

User is not authorized to redistribute instructions to edit this modification. Please remove this post and further responses, and inform the user that this is not allowed.

BTW, if you go ahead an edit someone's post, you should then follow through and do what you say which is to "inform the user that this is not allowed"  This was never done since no one sent me any messages telling me it was not allowed.  I guess the person was Kat who said he/she would be doing that since that was the person who made the edit.

Also, it seems like people of different levels are sending all types of mixed messages, so you should probably all get on the same page.  I'm referring to this post specifically which lead to KC and I thinking that we were allowed to exchange the information on the edits needed to make it work.  I would not be sending him a new mod, but telling him how to make it work.

if you convince someone to modify your own forum directly, then it's OK (for free or paid).
If you convince someone to post a set of instructions indicating how to make the existing mod work correctly, then it would probably be OK, as long as no actual files were included.

I'm so glad that SMF is still the most helpful place around.     (Oh yeah, that was sarcasm.)


@KC
After moving my friend, we finally have internet and we will be working on my forum this Friday.  When we get it to work, I will let you know.  If someone tells me whether or not I am allowed to tell you how we got it to work, I will be letting you know, too.  I won't be packaging this up into a package like other have done on other mod threads.  I will just be telling you what was done to make it work.




Just a question.  Since people are saying that the mods are no longer being supported by the authors, shouldn't the mods be taken off of the site so that these problems don't happen and people don't get their panties in a tizzy?

[Nick Whetstone]

Kat edited your post due to this post by the Mod author:

What problem?

@C4G-TK, you're not authorized to distribute instructions to modify this modification, unless you can somehow do so with redistributing a single line of code present in the modification (i.e. those found in a "find" instruction).

Had he not posted that, Kindred's statement may have been valid. But, since Fustrate posted that after Kindred posted what he did, it ruled out the ability to distribute instructions if they used any of the code from the package.

[C4G-TK]

This mod was a casualty of January 16th, 2010. As such, it is no longer developed or maintained, and permission is not given for anyone to take it over.

I see that you updated Advanced Reputation System for other newer versions, so I'm wondering why that mod didn't suffer the same consequence as this one? 


Would it be possible for me to send you the working version of this mod when I get it working in order to have you update it for others?  Or, are you not updating the mod in order to somehow snub the powers that be?  To me, it just seems like the only people that are getting snubbed here are the users since obviously, the powers that be could care less.

I have always held you in very high regard.  You have been extremely helpful with your mods and others in the past when help was needed.  I truly hope that if someone send you a WORKING VERSION of this mod that you go ahead and use that version to update it.  I'm just hoping to do good for others and don't want anything in return.  I always thought you did the same.

Just asking since I'm wondering what the reason would be for not updating it if you've updated other mods and you would still not have to do anything for this as far as support.  I mean, if someone else is willing to do the work for you and you still don't update it, I just can't fathom the reason.

[Fustrate]

ARS is being updated because Ha² took it over. I'm just listed as an Additional Author on that one.

I was intentionally stalling this mod because of the ****** TPTB pulled in January, but now that some progress is being made, I'd probably let someone else take over this mod under the same conditions (myself as an AA, credit JayBachatero and myself in the readme).

[KensonPlays]

@C4K-TK:
Thanks for the input
-sent from my phone

[anakmacan]

It's reckless to accuse C4G-TK for stealing/hijacking/taking over/redistributing this mod.. C4G-TK is NOT going to give us the actual files. She's willing to help meaning she's ONLY going to TEACH us how to make it work in 2.0 RCx like EVERYBODY ELSE have done the same in Support Forum.

Somebody else has offered me a paid help to make this mod work in 2.0RC2 but he ignored me since i couldnt afford a lot of money to give him, so I appreciate C4G-TK's sincere help offer SO MUCH since NO OTHER PERSON is able to. So Yes, EVERYBODY ELSE should Thank her and her Ex for willing to put their time and skill to make this mod compatible with newer SMF versions.

Thank you in advanced  C4G-TK for trying to help us

[Arantor]

It's reckless to accuse C4G-TK for stealing/hijacking/taking over/redistributing this mod.. C4G-TK is NOT going to give us the actual files. She's willing to help meaning she's ONLY going to TEACH us how to make it work in 2.0 RCx like EVERYBODY ELSE have done the same in Support Forum.

Except that, while I understand your frustration, it is still legally Fustrate/JayBachatero's work and distributing instructions on modifying it is technically a breach of copyright without permission.

so I appreciate C4G-TK's sincere help offer SO MUCH since NO OTHER PERSON is able to.

Don't confuse "no-one else is able to" with "no-one else wants to". I'd offer to take the mod over, as I think I have the necessary skill, but I don't want to have to support it too, because frankly I'm fed up of supporting mods because all that happens is a list of "ME ME ME I WANTZ IT LIKE THIS *foot stamp foot stamp* AND I'LL SCREAM AND SCREAM UNTIL I'M SICK", which I've avoided mostly on SimpleDesk with the answer 'It wasn't planned' and frequently 'That's not something we really want to implement'.

[anakmacan]

I do know every mod owners have done a marvelous job and deserve a "Thanks", and C4G-TK's the one who's willing to make it work (since currently no one wants or have time to do it) so no one should "punish"/scold her or stop her from doing it. So thank you to both C4G-TK and Fustrate.

[Arantor]

I agree, thanks normally in order. And normally mod authors don't care about instructions being posted for upgrading mods.

But this time is different, the credited mod author specifically said it wasn't allowed to even post such instructions, which is why the scolding came out. The team have to enforce the wishes of authors in this case.


Oh, and despite that mod owners all do marvelous jobs and deserve thanks, it's so rarely given.

[anakmacan]

But this time is different, the credited mod author specifically said it wasn't allowed to even post such instructions,

well... it wont prevent from anyone doing it quietly.. from my perspective i honestly still dont see why C4K's wrong. This is the same like if i had tenants with issue that the house has plumbing problem, i had no time or money to work on it, one tenant was a terrific plumber and he fixed it perfectly although i didnt approve it. When i checked my house, the plumbing's fine and i was happy that it 'fixed itself' and the tenants were happy. Next time when i get new tenants, i wouldnt have to do all the dirty work cos i could just use the old plumbing that one of my old tenant has fixed it without me knowing.

[Arantor]

It's not quite the same. If you note, the reason such things were not allowed isn't because of a lack of time or money, but based on the stuff that happened earlier this year, which was a cause of insult, frustration and hurt for a lot of people. So, really, your analogy doesn't entirely hold up.

To make your analogy accurate, let's say you're the managing agent but you have an issue with the actual landlord, he was giving you trouble, so although you know there's a leak you refuse to let your terrific tenant plumber fix it. That's where the problem comes in.

[anakmacan]

Then the problem's only between me and my landlord, and it still wont prevent my 'tenants' to fix it themselves with or without my acknowledgment cos my tenants're basically the people who live in that house.. -edited- unless i could burn the house along with my tenants in it   

[Arantor]

*headdesk*

Not if you have legal right to forbid your tenant to do the work. Seriously, there is no point in arguing on this one, it is how it is.

[anakmacan]

Hummm, okay then if no one will fix it, me, Kcmartz, etc will pack our things and try together to find a new house until the agents kiss and make up with the 'landlord'.

[Fustrate]

I've allowed JBlaze to take over this mod.

[JBlaze]

Thanks Fustrate

I'll be working on a rewrite over the next week. Keep your eyes peeled!

[Kindred]

for those of you who complained... Please realize that the author of a piece of software (or a mod, in this case) can specify ANY license/use terms that he/she feels like and, in order to legally use the mod, you must comply with those terms.

My original post about what you could or could not do was general and was based on the standard smf "accepted policy". However, once Fustrate posted his specific forbiddings, those took precedence. I know that this is a useful mod (I use it myself), and you wanted it updated, but you have to follow the author's wishes.

Now that JBlaze has officially taken over, I am sure you'll see some movement (C4K, if you'd like to share what the "fixes" were, JBlaze might incorporate them).

[JBlaze]

Anyone got any feature requests for this mod before I make it final?

[C4G-TK]

Thanks for posing the question, JBlaze.

- How hard would it be to make the names of those that appear as a recipient of an award to be shown in alphabetical order for people to find their names or others easier?  Currently, I think it is listed by date received in the list.

- Was the pagination error in the Awards List in the Personal Profile area corrected?  It was working before the RC2 and RC3 were released, but then broke.  So, if you went into PROFILE > PROFILE INFO > AWARDS LIST and then clicked on page 2 or more... it would just take you back to the profile and not to the next page of the Awards List.

- I'm assuming the ability to add an award to someone has been fixed.  That was another error prior to you taking it over.