How this blog was created

Started by Thantos, November 14, 2006, 12:32:19 AM

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Thantos

I figured I'd kick off the Developer's blog by explaining how I actually created it.

Now I'm well aware that there is a ton of blogging software out there.  But if we look at the essence of a blog you'll find that it is basically a post with a bunch of comments following it.  Put them together and you get a blog.  This strangely enough is similar to a topic with the first post being the article and all following posts being comments, and they are all stored in a board.

Following that logic I created a category to store all the blogs in and made each blog a board in that category.  That provided all the grouping I needed, I was now ready to begin creating the actual software.  It turns out that I really only needed four files to make this work.  The first one is a PHP file that does all the heavy lifting, the second is a CSS file that makes things pretty, and the third one is simply a graphics file for use with the RSS feeds.  Now the forth file is a htaccess file that isn't really needed but it provides a nice effect for us.  It allows me to use a url like http://blogs.simplemachines.org/dev/all.  What's the big deal you ask?  Well first off there is no directory called dev under the blogs directory.  Without the htaccess file I would have to do something like http://blogs.simplemachines.org/index.php/dev/all which isn't nearly as pretty is it?

Now after I set up how I wanted things to look I was ready to code.

The first thing I needed to do was to declare what blogs I had.  This was done as a simple array

$blogs = array(
'team' => 128,
'dev' => 129,
);


The next step I took was to parse the request URI and see what they user was asking for (if anything at all).  This was done by using a regular expression that broke up the various parts into it's component pieces.

From there it was just a matter of loading the correct content.  If they didn't ask for anything it will show them the main page, after loading the required information.  If they asked for a particular blog then it'll show them the most recent entry for that blog.  If they asked for a particular entry then it shows them that one.  Its all a matter of querying the right tables out of the SMF database.

Now to create an actual entry all I have to do is create a topic in the blog's board and it shows up automatically.  I mean how cool is that?

Now I would like to end this by saying that this entire blog is powered by the SMF software and uses nothing other then what you get using SSI.
So remember, SMF is more then just a forum software, its a pretty kick butt framework.

Daniel15

QuoteNow the forth file is a htaccess file that isn't really needed but it provides a nice effect for us.  It allows me to use a url like http://blogs.simplemachines.org/dev/all.  What's the big deal you ask?  Well first off there is no directory called dev under the blogs directory.  Without the htaccess file I would have to do something like http://blogs.simplemachines.org/index.php/dev/all which isn't nearly as pretty is it?
You should reword that slightly, to something like:

QuoteNow the forth file is a htaccess file that isn't really needed but it provides a nice effect for us.  Using an Apache module called 'mod_rewrite', I am able to use URL's like http://blogs.simplemachines.org/dev/all.  What's the big deal you ask?  Well first off there is no directory called dev under the blogs directory.  Without the htaccess file I would have to do something like http://blogs.simplemachines.org/index.php/dev/all which isn't nearly as pretty is it?

Anyways, it's nice to see what you can come up with using SMF as a framework. Indeed, it's more versatile than any other forum system I've used :)
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Neol

May we have the files you used to create this?

Gary

It's called SSI.php :P

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I get an error when I want to see the comments on the blogs, example  :

http://blogs.simplemachines.org/dev/131110/comments.html

Gary

Reported to the bugtracker.

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MPT.

I want a blog module like this too. I've tried to make something, I have a little experience with PHP. Can you explain it a little detailed how you made a blog like this?


Thantos


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Quote from: Thantos on January 20, 2007, 12:19:19 AM
Thats part of the mystery :P
I think this blog is using the boardNews function of the SSI.php. But that's all what I know :D

Come on help us a little.. :D

Daniel15

QuoteI think this blog is using the boardNews function of the SSI.php.
It could be... It looks a lot like it :)
(no, I don't know what's used :P)
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Quote from: Daniel15 on January 20, 2007, 10:22:56 AM
QuoteI think this blog is using the boardNews function of the SSI.php.
It could be... It looks a lot like it :)
(no, I don't know what's used :P)
Woww, what a helpful answer :D

I think you know what's used.. :D




TempusFugit

Couldn't this be released as a mod? I understand it's a personal work, but it would be a great SMF add-on...

Another idea would be to make a blog-style theme for these boards. If someone access the blog boards from the forum, a specific theme would be used that would simulate the feel and look of a blog.


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It's no problem to use the boardnews function of the SSI.php but how can you show the 'comments' on the same site as the 'news' is? (or on a new site but not in the forum - like here it is)  :(

Neol

Quote from: Lemming on March 07, 2007, 07:58:38 PM
It's no problem to use the boardnews function of the SSI.php but how can you show the 'comments' on the same site as the 'news' is? (or on a new site but not in the forum - like here it is)  :(

I implemented comments too.
http://www.zeriyt.com/component/option,com_smf/forumi,informatik/Itemid,45/action,revista_informatike

If you click on the 'xx Comments' link after each post, they will be displayed like this:
http://www.zeriyt.com/component/option,com_smf/forumi,informatik/Itemid,45/action,revista_informatike/topic,35218.0
Scroll down and you'll see that comments (after the "article") are indented to the right.

I used Custom Action Mod to "host" my blog code. No image support, though. Maybe I'll add it later. And maybe I'll release my mod for you to use, if anyone is interested. :P

Lemming

Quote from: Zeri YT! on March 07, 2007, 08:45:30 PM
And maybe I'll release my mod for you to use, if anyone is interested. :P

  ;D

Neol

I have to clean up my blog code first. Maybe I'll also integrate Custom Action Mod, on which my mod relies -- I have already done that with another mod I'm working on -- and submit my mod as a package.

Either way, I'll post my mod here ;)  

Lemming

#22
Is it much work to do that? Here you can see a test news page


I want to public this thing...but it would be great with the comment function.

Neol

Quote from: Lemming on March 08, 2007, 05:34:48 PM
Is it much work to do that? Here you can see a test news page


I want to public this thing...but it would be great with the comment function.

I think it shouldn't be much work to convert what I've done into a mod. I'm busy with another mod at the moment, though.

Besides, you use TinyPortal, which I don't (not yet, at least). I guess you can get better support at TinyPortal's site regarding adding comments to front page.

Lemming

#24
Another option is to simply edit the theme so you have the news article and under it some small comments (like Blocs wiki style theme). Then just activate this theme for the news board. 

TinyPortal: I think it makes no difference... :) TP has a nice comment funktion but only for articles. And you can't make an article for every news. The better way is SSI. I will ask there :)

Lemming

Mh can you show me the template for these comment pages ?

Sarge

Quote from: Lemming on March 18, 2007, 11:14:39 AM
Mh can you show me the template for these comment pages ?

There's no special template for the blog. It's just the board default, which is RocketTheme Versatility II Sienna.

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<H> I had zero posts when I started posting

Lemming

*Meep* Okay - no special theme. Is there any chance that you make a modification for this - or maybe just the edited files?!  :) I'm thinking about to use a special news script but an integrated solution would be better.  

Daniel15

I recently released a mod named SSI Topics and Replies... This mod should make it a lot easier to make a mod.
Basically, use ssi_boardNews (with "array" return method, and format the data yourself) for the main blog page, ssi_topic (that mod) for the "Read More" page (and comments on that page), and you have a simple blog :).
I'm going to try work on a very simple blogging system, but it may not be for a while...
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ladynada

I also uploaded a simple blog using ssiboardnews, inside the ultiportal theme; unfortunately I am still waiting for it to be approved.

:(

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Just wondering...now that you have created this blog thingy, wouldn't it make sense to add it to SMF 2.0 as a default option? I mean, why not add this as a new feature? It seems to work fine and the code is already there...no?  [yes yes, I'm not a programmer, just a (stupid?) thought from a user...]

Dragooon


MPT.

Quote from: Dragooon on August 10, 2007, 01:32:13 PM
SMF is a forum not a blog.

So what?

The more options there are, the more SMF will be used.

It can be released as a mod.

IPB etc. have it.

Aaron

It's actually a seperate module for IP.boards, not a default feature. I don't think it should be a default feature in SMF either.

Gary

^ Agreed. So like IPB has it as a seperate optional package, I think we could do the same. SMBlog anyone. :P

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Quote from: Dragooon on August 10, 2007, 01:32:13 PM
SMF is a forum not a blog.

Then why do you use and praise it as a blog?  ::)

In that case, better not open such threads at all...

Dragooon

And when did we praised it as a Blog? SMF already god some mods that will work as good as a blog(Actually they are Blog mods :P). I never praised SMF as a blog. it is a full fleshed forum software in which a Blog can be added.

Its just like that. "Why you added chat? SMF is not for chatting"

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Quote from: Thantos on November 14, 2006, 12:32:19 AMNow to create an actual entry all I have to do is create a topic in the blog's board and it shows up automatically.  I mean how cool is that?
QuoteNow I would like to end this by saying that this entire blog is powered by the SMF software and uses nothing other then what you get using SSI.
So remember, SMF is more then just a forum software, its a pretty kick butt framework.

=  praising SMF as a blog...    ;)

Dragooon

We are not praising it as a Blog we are using its powers as a  Blog
(Or is that the same? :P :P :P)

flame baiter

Oh well...read again, think, think harder.

You can do it, good luck.

Quote from: stokedfish on August 11, 2007, 04:24:04 AM
Quote from: Thantos on November 14, 2006, 12:32:19 AMNow to create an actual entry all I have to do is create a topic in the blog's board and it shows up automatically.  I mean how cool is that?
QuoteNow I would like to end this by saying that this entire blog is powered by the SMF software and uses nothing other then what you get using SSI.
So remember, SMF is more then just a forum software, its a pretty kick butt framework.

=  praising SMF as a blog...    ;)

Gary

SMF isnt being praised as a blog. It's using it's customisation ability to have blog-like capabilities.

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i'd say its more prasing smf as a framework than as a blog.

Which i can agree with.  SMF is fairly extensible with a bit of coding know-how.
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I also want a blog like this one I has zero knowledge of PHP please can u put the ssi file in SMF 2.0

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Quote from: Gary Ghoulsdon on October 09, 2007, 10:10:22 AM
The SSI.php file is in 1.1

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We need the SSI file that outputs this blog, is that the one?

Dragooon

No SSI Does NOT outputs the blog,
Devs made it so that It can. It can be done if you know PHP and has an idea on how SMF functions.

digit

Does your blog display attachments? (because I basically came up with the same solution - but using custom actions...  but I can't figure out how to display the attachments!)

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I don't believe it was.
But if you get the attachment ids from the message you just call the function in the Display.php to laod them up and display them.
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