Mobile version

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Hello,

There is an urgent need for a proper mobile version of SMF. I mean a wap like built-in feature with auto redirect to mobile version.

And don't give me this wap thing for an answer. Wap-only browsers are history and more and more surfing is done with mobile phone. Google knows this:

"We've written in the past   about how mobile phones are becoming an increasingly indispensable part   of our daily lives, and we continue to see how great devices with full   Internet browsers and vibrant app marketplaces are driving an explosion   of usage. In fact:

   
• iPhone and Android users browse the   Internet more often than anyone else (Morgan   Stanley), contributing to Google's 5x mobile search growth over the   past two years
• And a quarter of these same iPhone and Android   users spend nearly 90 minutes per day using applications on their   devices (AdMob)

Despite   the tremendous growth in mobile usage and the substantial investment by   many businesses in the space, the mobile web is still in its early   stages. We believe that great mobile advertising products can encourage   even more growth in the mobile ecosystem. That's what has us excited   about this deal.

For publishers of mobile websites and   applications, this deal will mean better products and tools and more   effective monetization of their content — allowing them to focus more on   their users and less on how to generate revenue."

I don't want SMF (and my site) to miss this mobile train that is leaving from the station soon. Mobile version should be number one thing to do after SMF 2.0 is ready.

[Arantor]

Try 2.0 with the Curve Mobile theme.

[Stüldt Håjt]

I am waiting for gold version of 2.0.

But is that theme working automatically so with mobile phone it's showing mobile theme and with computer it's showing normal theme? If not, that's not really an answer because no one bothers to change their theme from profile.

What I'd really like to do is to have a fully working index.php?mobile and redirect it to m.domain.tld.

[Arantor]

Won't happen in 2.0, because it's been feature locked for ages.

Could be good for 2.1, and with a little work it is possible to achieve (it's something we experimented with on simpledesk.net actually)

Themes don't generally alter the core behaviour like that (if nothing else, they're not allowed to anyway), they'd have to be added to the site as mods not themes then...

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Yes I know that it won't be on 2.0 and that's why I said It should be done after 2.0 is ready.

[Owdy]

But is that theme working automatically so with mobile phone it's showing mobile theme and with computer it's showing normal theme?

Yes, thats exactly how it works. Theme comes with smaal MOD http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2035

This is a mod for SMF to be installed via package manager. It adds mobile detection which will switch to this theme if a mobile browser is mod. Installing this mod is recommended

I dont know what mobiles/browsers it detects, but works in my HTC Hero.

Intended to work on low-resolution screens which can properly renderJS/CSS/HTML(Such as HTC Smart phones or iPhone/iPod Touch/Androidphones etc).

That theme and mod is installed in there, so you can test it http://smf-friends.org/

[~DS~]

But is that theme working automatically so with mobile phone it's showing mobile theme and with computer it's showing normal theme?

Yes, thats exactly how it works. Theme comes with smaal MOD http://custom.simplemachines.org/themes/index.php?lemma=2035

This is a mod for SMF to be installed via package manager. It adds mobile detection which will switch to this theme if a mobile browser is mod. Installing this mod is recommended

What about RC3? Nope.

[Owdy]

What about RC3? Nope.

Works fine in RC3, test that site i linked.

edit:

I dont know what mobiles/browsers it detects,

Found it:

Code Select Expand


// Load all the agents for smart phones.
// name of device, string to look for
$user_agents = array(
array('iPhone', 'iphone'),
array('iPod', 'ipod'),
array('PocketIE', 'iemobile'),
array('Opera Mini', isset($_SERVER['HTTP_X_OPERAMINI_PHONE_UA'])),
array('Opera Mobile', 'Opera Mobi'),
array('Android', 'android'),
array('Symbian', 'symbian'),
array('Symbian S60', 'series60'),
array('Symbian S70', 'series70'),
array('Symbian S80', 'series80'),
array('Symbian S90', 'series90'),
array('Symbian S60', 'series 60'),
array('Symbian S70', 'series 70'),
array('Symbian S80', 'series 80'),
array('Symbian S90', 'series 90'),
array('BlackBerry', 'blackberry'),
array('BlackBerry Storm', 'blackberry05'),
array('Palm', 'palm'),
array('Web OS', 'webos'),
);



[~DS~]

What about RC3? Nope.

Works fine in RC3, test that site i linked.

edit:

I dont know what mobiles/browsers it detects,

Found it:

Code Select Expand


// Load all the agents for smart phones.
// name of device, string to look for
$user_agents = array(
array('iPhone', 'iphone'),
array('iPod', 'ipod'),
array('PocketIE', 'iemobile'),
array('Opera Mini', isset($_SERVER['HTTP_X_OPERAMINI_PHONE_UA'])),
array('Opera Mobile', 'Opera Mobi'),
array('Android', 'android'),
array('Symbian', 'symbian'),
array('Symbian S60', 'series60'),
array('Symbian S70', 'series70'),
array('Symbian S80', 'series80'),
array('Symbian S90', 'series90'),
array('Symbian S60', 'series 60'),
array('Symbian S70', 'series 70'),
array('Symbian S80', 'series 80'),
array('Symbian S90', 'series 90'),
array('BlackBerry', 'blackberry'),
array('BlackBerry Storm', 'blackberry05'),
array('Palm', 'palm'),
array('Web OS', 'webos'),
);



Works, didn't know it works on RC3 which it states RC2. Thanks. 2 down 1 more to go. 

[simiarajose9]

If you walk on the any of the city streets in India, you will rarely see people without mobile phones. More than half of these people have new generation mobile phones sporting big screens and GPRS having internet access. Infact, as per a recent study more than 30 million Indians have access to internet via mobile phones compared to that with 4.2 million normal subscribers accessing Internet on PCs. According to me, only a few select niche of websites bring value by having a mobile version, apart from that, I really do not think mobile version of a normal website/blog makes any sense. Yes, no doubt you can have opt-in alert services that send a sms on-demand, but other than that accessing website on mobile for browsing just does not make sense.
If you are wanting to go mobile, there are a few tools out there to help developing with mobile sites, you can use this mobile emulator to see what your site looks like in a mobile, there is also a great mobile page checker that tells you what you need to do to make your page mobile compatible.

[Liam.]

If you walk on the any of the city streets in India, you will rarely see people without mobile phones. More than half of these people have new generation mobile phones sporting big screens and GPRS having internet access. Infact, as per a recent study more than 30 million Indians have access to internet via mobile phones compared to that with 4.2 million normal subscribers accessing Internet on PCs. According to me, only a few select niche of websites bring value by having a mobile version, apart from that, I really do not think mobile version of a normal website/blog makes any sense. Yes, no doubt you can have opt-in alert services that send a sms on-demand, but other than that accessing website on mobile for browsing just does not make sense.
If you are wanting to go mobile, there are a few tools out there to help developing with mobile sites, you can use this mobile emulator to see what your site looks like in a mobile, there is also a great mobile page checker that tells you what you need to do to make your page mobile compatible.

First look at that and I thought it was SPAM. But it's true, just test it on an emulator (Theres an Adobe one, I forget what it's called :/ | there's also something like testiphone.com which works).

[Nao 尚]

I'm pretty sure we'll be working on a better mobile version for 2.1.
As of now, as already mentioned, there's already Curve Mobile to begin with.

[Hj Ahmad Rasyid Hj Ismail]

If I am not mistaken there is iPhone Theme and mod too. It is suitable for iphone but can be adjusted to suit other mobile phone as well.

[butchs]

Yes, the smf4iphone mod will work with any mobile theme.  It  directs the user to one of three admin panel set themes and a default theme based on the UA for all other mobile devices.  Since I wrote it, I can say it has a kinda quirky interface but works good.  It is best to install it after you installed all your mobile themes. 

[Saved0ne]

Anyway to get a mobile version for 1.1.11 or w/e?

[Antechinus]

I made one but it's a bit WIP as it could still do with a bit of tweaking here and there.

[Stüldt Håjt]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/web/help/wml_closure.shtml

BBC decides to close it's WAP version because traffic is nowadays less than 1%. We are in 2011, everyone has smartphones and still no xhtml version in SMF. SMF once was top of the top, but now more like an old dinosaur.

With this pace we will have an xhtml version in 2016 and by that time xhtml is long gone and there is zhtml6.

[Kindred]

   SMF validates as xhtml.

[Illori]

   SMF validates as xhtml.

it does?? http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.simplemachines.org%2Fcommunity%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D370380.msg2912701

Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
Result:   13 Errors

[Kindred]

and all of them are:
end tag for "ul" which is not finished
which is a BS. error..