SMF 1.1 Beta 3 Public!

[Padfoot]

Any idea when we will start seeing mods for 1.1?

I like the Visual Warning mod, and would hate to lost the post moderation facility.
Also the Global/super sticky...Topic rating & Bar of experience....

Could live without Sticky mods...but really need to keep post moderation....


Other than that.....1.1 looks totally awesome....  

[Juan]

Edit: Solved

[Ben_S]

Edit: Solved

What was it?

[IngeJones]

Sorry - just found the installation help forum

[gijs]

Unfortunately, this release does have a known problem with attachment thumbnails; if you enable that option, you may have problems with excessive memory usage on some versions and configurations of PHP.  We're not sure what is causing this bug, and we're still working on solving it, but it shouldn't be a problem for most people.

Too bad you haven't been able to tackle this one yet   
but anyway, good work again!

[Juan]

Edit: Solved

What was it?

I had problems with the files, sorry...

I don't want to disturb, you know... It was a lil problem because I uploaded again the files and that was it

[Alan G]

well not one to shy away from the opportunity to break things i installed and upgraded - unsuprisingly it went very smoothly and within 5 minutes my forum of 900 members and 50,000 posts was happily sat on 1.1.3 - seemingly without any issues at all.

i have to say thanks again to the great work you guys are doing.

[l2ev01ut!0n]

My host has a version set up...

I like where you can send out newsletters..

I will probably update my hxxp:www.forum-revolution.newagetechnology.biz/index.php [nonactive] to that when it comes out of beta

[Sheepy]

Many sites (like mine) are on 1.0.5, and are likely to remain in the 1.0 branch if they've any meaningful number of customisations since they can't upgrade.  Yet new future sites and mods will be in 1.1.

Will you keep maintaining the 1.0 branch so we can retain our old sites knowing that they are as secure as the latest version, and that mod authors can keep taking care of our needs as the world of forum evolves?

I don't mind I can't upgrade, but I would mind if I'm going to lost support because I'm using an older branch.

[IngeJones]

I just want to say thank you for the stress-free experience of upgrading.  I was terrified before I started, but the how-to in the installing help forum held my hand all the way

[Tom]

Has an option for COPPA compliance been added in this version?

[Tristan Perry]

Has an option for COPPA compliance been added in this version?

Yes  Under the member settings panel in the Admin area.

[Mirrorball]

I just installed it and it's awesome, thanks! But I have a problem with hashed passwords. I use Firefox to store all my passwords and when they are hashed with Javascript, Firefox doesn't store their values, only a lot of *s. How do I disable Javascript hashing?
Also I tried to use search-engine-friendly URLs but all image URLs were broken.

[Tom]

Has an option for COPPA compliance been added in this version?

Yes  Under the member settings panel in the Admin area.

I'm going to wait until it comes out of beta to install it, but great to know! 

[Tristan Perry]

Has an option for COPPA compliance been added in this version?

Yes  Under the member settings panel in the Admin area.

I'm going to wait until it comes out of beta to install it, but great to know! 

Sure  Just out of curiosity, why not install it in beta? (Not meaning to pry..)

[Ben_S]

Sure  Just out of curiosity, why not install it in beta? (Not meaning to pry..)

He may not be confident using beta software, we recommend that only those who are happy to take the risk of messing their site up use it. That said, the chances of it going wrong are slim as it's been used on lots of sites while in beta and during development.

Some people naturally will feel more confident sticking with 1.0.5 for now.

[Tristan Perry]

He may not be confident using beta software, we recommend that only those who are happy to take the risk of messing their site up use it. That said, the chances of it going wrong are slim as it's been used on lots of sites while in beta and during development.

Some people naturally will feel more confident sticking with 1.0.5 for now.

Good point. I have found it to be stable, although generally when I see software in beta I don't tend to use it.. I guess I have found SMF to be competent in the past and so went straight into using 1.1 Beta 1.

[[Unknown]]

so what are the major template changes? i use the default template with some modifications... will the updater take them over as best as it goes or will it not?

If you diff the old files with the new, you should see them.  Modifying the default theme makes things difficult, if you did that.

The upgrader will not touch your themes.

Will you keep maintaining the 1.0 branch so we can retain our old sites knowing that they are as secure as the latest version, and that mod authors can keep taking care of our needs as the world of forum evolves?

Yes, we will.  But, eventually, we will drop support for it.  I'm not sure exactly when, but it will be months and months along - maybe years.  We haven't talked about that yet.

As for mods, I would suggest updating to 1.1 for that.  It's unlikely mod authors will want to maintain mods that work with 1.0 and 1.1, in the long run.  When we release the next major version, 1.0 will be very old news.  And, most of the people in this topic - you'll read - have upgraded their versions.  While I know people will stay on 1.0, a lot of people (especially the people who love to have mods installed) will be upgrading.  Further, because 1.1 is more efficient, I would guess large forums would all be updating too - at least, eventually.

Porting your modifications over isn't hard, and is often just as easy as a diff.  Since the source code to SMF is several megs, I'd doubt you've movidifed so much that it would be better to stay with 1.0 than to go with 1.1.

That said, I'm not meaning you should update to this beta by any means.  But, we recommend and encourage updating to the final version of 1.1, when it is available.

I just installed it and it's awesome, thanks! But I have a problem with hashed passwords. I use Firefox to store all my passwords and when they are hashed with Javascript, Firefox doesn't store their values, only a lot of *s. How do I disable Javascript hashing?
Also I tried to use search-engine-friendly URLs but all image URLs were broken.

I would argue this is a bug in Firefox; it should store the typed value, even if some onsubmit logic changes it.  This stands to reason, because the saved value is only going to be changed the same way when entered again.

You may wish to at least ask about this over at http://forums.mozillazine.org/.  If that doesn't help, I suppose you might be able to drag out of me how to disable the hashing.... but I'd prefer not to have it disabled.

-[Unknown]

[Mirrorball]

I'm going to report it as a bug, thanks. I've noticed that if I delete the onsubmit attribute of login forms the hashing is disabled and login still works. I'll do this as a temporary fix.

[JackTripper]

Wow, I just downloaded this and I am loving every thing about it.

It was the fastest installation ever, I think creating the Database through cPanel took longer than installing. Wow!