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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #120 on: May 23, 2016, 10:30:31 PM »
In some point I understand you about add new fields but because you mentioned "more of one category" I focused only on that part. I had not thought about add custom fields, it's a good idea. Maybe in the near future I incorporate it.

About the price the opinions diverge from person to person and each programmer set their prices based on the invested time and complexity of the scripts. In the case of FFPro, it is only a complement and uses the main functions of SMF, but it has 4 times the code of FFSystem (not counting third party scripts, only what I coded) and there is also the part of the complexity of the functions of multicategories, notifications, ratings, compatibility problems, etc. For all this I think the price I defined is appropriate (maybe a little more, maybe a little less). But again,  the opinions diverge for each one.
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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #121 on: May 23, 2016, 10:50:19 PM »
That would be awesome if you did decide to do it (and especially if it was free, like I said. :D). I would say definitely let people add different kinds of fields- not just text areas, but other types of fields as well, and definitely let them modify the text for each field, like an explanation for each one or something. And like I said, it would be cool if there was an option for uploading a cover for the story being submitted (or alternatively, just putting in a URL to the cover image without having to upload it, which could be a custom field).

I totally understand the reasoning behind the pricing. I know that coding is no easy feat, and that it takes a LOT of time (I just got done taking a web design class and I've been doing stuff in web design for a long time, though I don't have the skills to create mods like you have) to build and get everything situated as you said. Even knowing that, I still feel like $50.00 is too much (at least right now, for me, like I said, but I bet other people feel the same way). Even $15-20.00 would be better than $50.00.

The other thing is that it doesn't seem like there's a massive amount of feature differences between the two. The paid version has some features that the free version doesn't, but otherwise they're pretty much the same, and the amount of extra features that the paid version has doesn't seem like they're worth $50.00. I totally get where you're coming from on the coding front, but as a potential buyer of the product, $50.00 still seems like too much for what pretty much equates to a simple download, install and modification of settings on my end. I'm not sure if I'm the only one who's brought up the pricing of this mod before, but maybe if enough people felt this way, it would be worth reconsidering the pricing, or giving some kind of an alternative to that price somehow (not sure how, though). Maybe some kind of a payment plan or something. 

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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #122 on: May 24, 2016, 01:22:44 AM »
I don't think you do get how the pricing works, actually.

You see, if you got how it worked, you wouldn't be so passionately arguing for the mod author to halve the price solely because you think it's too high. And doing so in a way that doesn't just devalue the author's time and effort on both the free and paid versions, but in a way that devalues any mod author.

You just reduced every single mod to "equates to a simple download, install and modification of settings" regardless of what it does, or how much effort went into writing it. You have no idea how much effort goes into a mod, as you even say yourself, and then proceed to set a value on that effort.

Last paid mod I did, took six months of full time effort, to write 30,000 lines of code on my part (not counting the other thousands of lines of code that were the cumulative efforts of other people), that was a simple download, install, set the settings and use deal. I didn't get many customers despite that effort, and it wasn't even that I had a free version limiting my sales. (There were other reasons, quality was not one of them but overestimating demand certainly was.) And that was a $40 mod, of less niche use than this one. $50 for a mod that is niche, specialised and unique in the ecosystem except for its own free version... That's not expensive, it's a bargain.

Next time you go to work, tell me how happy you'd be to do your job at somewhere between 1/2 and 1/4 of what you make. Then let me give you more work to do in the hopes you'll pay me that disrespectful amount.



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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #123 on: May 24, 2016, 02:09:01 AM »
I do understand how it works, and I was never trying to knock Tokzu or their effort to build the mod. I totally get that it takes hours and hours of coding to build something like this. But from the perspective of a consumer like me, who doesn't have the coding knowledge to do it themselves and doesn't have $50.00 to pay for something like that, the pricing could be better, that's all. I was never demanding that Tokzu lower the price simply because I brought up what I see as a high price, and I wouldn't expect Tokzu to do so just because of one person. If others are willing to pay $50.00, then obviously it's working for Tokzu and since it's their mod, they have the right to choose whatever pricing they want. But like I said, not everyone has that capability, and having another option of some kind in addition to- not instead of- would be helpful but it's not something I'm demanding by any means. It's totally understandable from Tokzu's perspective, but not everyone has the capability to spend $50.00 on something like this, and providing an option for those who can't afford to pay such a high price for something would potentially draw in more people who see the mod and say "hey, there's a paid version of this...oh wait, it's $50.00. That's too much" and then back down from buying it means that you (general you) don't lose out on a potential customer/purchase being made.

What you see as a bargain, another might see as an expense, like I said. $50.00 is a lot of money these days, and not something I can easily spend.

Tokzu, I apologize if my words somehow offended you as they apparently offended Arantor, as that wasn't my intent at all. If I had the money, and if I knew it would be worth it on my end to do so, I would buy the paid version of the mod without much hesitation because of the functionality that the mod provides and I very much appreciate. I was just looking at things from the perspective of someone who doesn't have bundles of money to spend for things like this, and trying to make suggestions. My intention was definitely not to devalue your effort, and I hope you'll still consider adding the custom fields to the free version of the mod.

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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #124 on: April 06, 2017, 06:53:58 PM »
I'd like to use this for my site, but it wouldn't be "Fanfic" but original stories. Does anyone know if I can easily change all instances of "Fanfic' people would see to another word? Or is it not worth the time, going into the code and making a ton of changes?

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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #125 on: February 06, 2018, 11:10:29 PM »
Some day, maybe someone will know. XD

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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #126 on: February 06, 2018, 11:55:04 PM »
Try modifying the language files normally found in themes/default/languages folder there should be one for the mod.
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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #127 on: February 07, 2018, 12:58:11 AM »
Is the developer still active on this? I notices the Pro-link is not active either.
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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #128 on: February 07, 2018, 01:08:00 AM »
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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #129 on: February 07, 2018, 05:02:28 PM »
Time for someone to seize the opportunity to create a new "Fiction Archive" mod... <_<

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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #130 on: February 07, 2018, 08:21:50 PM »
I am not sure exactly what this mod does, I read the description didnt quite get it.
Installed on my test forum just fine.,
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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #131 on: February 07, 2018, 09:36:05 PM »
It creates a separate area where users can post their own fictional stories. It's nice vs. other "article" mods because it lets users post and manage their work very easily, and it keeps the stories separated from the rest of the forum. (Sometimes it's nice to have things not be in 'thread' format, like this.) It also has useful features like marking your story as age restricted for content, having its own category hierarchy settings, etc.

Only problem I have with it currently is that it's called "fanfic" in the URL, BUT that's not a huge issue. Just would be nice to know how to change it. I'd rather live with it than break anything, though. (My site isn't for fanfic, but original fiction.)

What it needs, IMHO:

- Ability to rate stories and sort by rating.
- Ability to tag stories and sort by tags. (IE: Horror, Fantasy, Sci-Fi, etc.)
- SSI for recent stories, top stories, etc.

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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #132 on: February 07, 2018, 10:35:04 PM »
So how do others see the work your doing ?

Also should be easy to just change the menu names in the themes language folder .

I am looking at this myself to see if it would work for Lyrics as opposed to articles but not sure how members see the
work still poking around it.
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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #133 on: February 14, 2018, 10:08:05 PM »
People see your work when you post a finished fanfic. It's basically like an article system, but adapted for stories/fiction. Stories/Articles are beneath categories, can have 'chapters', etc.

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Re: Fanfics System
« Reply #134 on: March 10, 2018, 05:50:05 PM »
Does anyone who has used this mod possible have any SSI code to call the 'latest fanfics' or what have you?