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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #240 on: September 05, 2020, 11:49:42 AM »
Okay, i'll shut up... :-X

And yet, you have created a mod, you the non-coder... :-\

But! :-X :-X :-X

I think you are confused ;)
they didn't create the mod, they are just trying to use it

Mick is currently the one supporting the mod

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Titled Links

Created By: SlammedDime
Taken Over: JBlaze
Updated By: JBlaze
Taken Over: idesignSMF
Updated By: idesignSMF
Compatible: SMF 2.0

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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #241 on: September 05, 2020, 12:00:45 PM »
It's a real shame, this Mod is a great idea!

As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to try to apply what I proposed earlier.
Then I don't know if I will be allowed to publish my work at SMF.
There is no license. I guess it's a free licence if no licence is specified.
In any case, even if SMF refuses, I will publish my work on my Github account.


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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #242 on: September 05, 2020, 12:32:18 PM »
It's a real shame, this Mod is a great idea!

As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to try to apply what I proposed earlier.
Then I don't know if I will be allowed to publish my work at SMF.
There is no license. I guess it's a free licence if no licence is specified.
In any case, even if SMF refuses, I will publish my work on my Github account.



A lack of licence does NOT mean you can just do what you like. On the contrary, it means you have zero rights beyond what is implied by being on this site - that you can use it. That's what copyright law says.

You are fine to post changes on *this* site, ideally in this thread, as a series of changes (not even a modified package) but that's about it. Publishing to your GitHub is a violation of copyright law without the permission of the current author.
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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #243 on: September 05, 2020, 02:24:20 PM »
I assume that a Mod that is released without a license inherits the SMF BSD license, which is a free license.
If our friend wanted to impose certain restrictions on his mod, it had to be done by choosing the right license. No ?

I have published 2 Mods and in these Mods there is a GNU license. ;)


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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #244 on: September 05, 2020, 02:32:21 PM »
I assume that a Mod that is released without a license inherits the SMF BSD license, which is a free license.

Not really no, a mod without a license is a mod without a license. Unfortunately you cannot make that assumption :-\
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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #245 on: September 05, 2020, 02:54:48 PM »
Worse, this mod is old enough that it predates SMF's BSD licence so if you made *that* assumption, you'd be on even shakier legal ground.

This is why you cannot make this assumption and when no licence is present, assume you do not have permission. Especially as SlammedDime, who contributed to this mod, frequently tagged his mods CC-SA-ND which would prevent modified versions.

And while we're on the subject, GPL licensed mods for SMF are probably on equally dubious grounds if the FSF's interpretation of the licence were ever to be taken, because they would presume that the underlying code for SMF was available on copyleft grounds as strong as the GPL provides, *which it is not*. But that's a whole other story and an argument I really don't want to have today. (Long story short: the only time you can *safely* legally make an SMF mod GPL is if the entirety of its code makes zero changes to SMF and uses no SMF code in it. The minute you do file edits, you have a legal problem. Similar story with the APL or the MPL, and massively so for the AGPL. The only truly safe licence in this context you can make a mod available under is the BSD licence, and you can't release a mod previously not under that licence as under that licence without permission from the copyright holder(s).)
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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #246 on: September 05, 2020, 06:48:32 PM »
Information taken, "an oeuvre" without indication of licence is automatically under copyleft, in the public domain.
It is up to the author and the author alone to submit his code to a licence. If he does not do so, the code is free to be taken up, modified, distributed, sold, etc...

Originally, we don't even know where this code comes from. It was non-coders who presented it without a licence...
If there was a breach of licence, it was certainly not by me.
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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #247 on: September 05, 2020, 07:33:16 PM »
No, it really isn’t. Under the Berne convention it is copyrighted to the author with no implied onwards rights. If that were truly so, SMF wouldn’t nearly have imploded 10 years ago when the developers threatened to remove their code from the project. But it isn’t so, and copyright exists. Copy left as you suggest is not automatic and is explicitly granted over and above the provisions of copyright law by the license itself.

There is some leeway because transferring a mod’s ownership implies some rights held by the receiver and it is on their discretion alone that you might be able to share it elsewhere.
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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #248 on: September 05, 2020, 07:37:35 PM »
Anyway, i will first modify and improve this Mod for me.
Then we'll see if anyone is interested.

We're not talking about millions of dollars, but just an SMF Mod that I'd like to see improved. ;)

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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #249 on: September 05, 2020, 07:49:59 PM »
Posting here in this thread will be fine. It's only anything else that's troublesome.
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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #250 on: September 06, 2020, 07:12:43 AM »
Any heads up on the version compatible with SMF 1.1? Thank you

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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #251 on: September 06, 2020, 07:31:42 AM »
Unlikely to still exist. It was written a decade ago, by a different author who doesn’t keep his old mods.

And as you can see from recent notes, the 2.0 version has some issues which the 1.1 version would also have if it still existed, but it probably doesn’t.
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Re: Titled Links
« Reply #252 on: October 01, 2020, 07:46:18 AM »
Hi,

I have just discovered a bug (for admins).
When BBCode HTML is used, the mod still converts the links.

For example:
[html]<iframe title="Arte - Le godcast de Dieu" data-dnt-embed data-src="https://www.arteradio.com/son/61664529/godcast_le_podcast_de_dieu?embed" style="border:1px #DADADA solid;" name="" scrolling="no" scrolling="no" align="bottom" width="600" height="125"></iframe>[/html]


Becomes:
[html]<iframe title="Arte - Le godcast de Dieu" data-dnt-embed data-src="[url=https://www.arteradio.com/son/61664529/godcast_le_podcast_de_dieu?embed"]Godcast, le podcast de Dieu | ARTE Radio[/url] style="border:1px #DADADA solid;" name="" scrolling="no" scrolling="no" align="bottom" width="600" height="125"></iframe>[/html]



This forces you to deactivate the mod, post your message, then reactivate the mod.
It is not very practical...