Bridge Xoops-SMF 1.1 RC3 Beta 1

[Lance_]

Options are good.  

But I question, you want it to look like a standalone so it has a different header than your site?? I don't see why?

[Orstio]

I never really understood the unwrapped option in Mambo/Joomla, just that it was fairly popular.  Some people want their forum to look as though it is separate from the CMS, yet function as if still a part of it. 

[X-Ception]

I never really understood the unwrapped option in Mambo/Joomla, just that it was fairly popular.  Some people want their forum to look as though it is separate from the CMS, yet function as if still a part of it. 

i would say as an option yes,
i see it as usefull being, a lot of the time i may host pages outside of the portal, cms itself,  but retain the members across the board, i.e dual function ( if that makes sense )

tho another factor is themeing too, lazy people again like me, just dont want to tamper with themes making it all sqeeze into the tiny space so just pop it in full view and "bobs your uncle"

[banned]

This can be very useful.. if you can instanciate SMF without instanciate various xoops related things like the theme object, the blocks objects and others.
This will reduce page loads time and the overall scripts weight on the server.

I'm not saying that everything on the Xoops framework has to be cutted out when you're browsing SMF, but certains things are just not necessary at all, imho.

banned,

[Orstio]

I think the theme object would be left out, but I'm not certain about the blocks objects.  Gains on server performance in the unwrapped forum are minimal, if any at all, because some things are loaded, but just discarded when SMF exits.

Besides, for a full-blown CMS, Xoops is probably the fastest I have worked with so far.  I'd like to know what the difference is that makes a CMS as robust as Joomla load in half the time.

[Lance_]

That's where I get lost. In Xoops if I wish to have to forum load by itself I will simply not assign any blocks on the module, therefore the forum will be inside the theme so the look is the same but will not have any other Xoopsie blocks on.

Like X said earlier about we lazy people, I'd rather not have to touch the SMF theme and have it appear inside my Xoops theme. I like it easy. This way I just choose a generic SMF theme which colors are neutral to my site.

After that, page loading will really be dependent to the "heaviness" of the theme. 

[banned]

I think the theme object would be left out, but I'm not certain about the blocks objects.  Gains on server performance in the unwrapped forum are minimal, if any at all, because some things are loaded, but just discarded when SMF exits.

Besides, for a full-blown CMS, Xoops is probably the fastest I have worked with so far.  I'd like to know what the difference is that makes a CMS as robust as Joomla load in half the time.

I'm sure that you will get some beautiful surprises in time generation when you cut out the theme object from the SMF bridge.
For my experience, in a page with 0.2x seconds page generation time 0.12-0.13  seconds are for the theme object. This is because of smarty that its not that 'fury' when you're not using his cache system.

And for adding blocks.. Well they are bringed to the theme - as for the modules - 'cause they all have their own template (a custom module has its own template too.. {$dummycontent} ).

banned,

[waqass]

Please help me there is always a blank screen..I am using Xoops 2.2.3 does it work for it also if it does than whats the prob I have given right addres but I can not find preference for the smf module beacuse there is no popup menu in this version can anybody guide?

[X-Ception]

Please help me there is always a blank screen..I am using Xoops 2.2.3 does it work for it also if it does than whats the prob I have given right addres but I can not find preference for the smf module beacuse there is no popup menu in this version can anybody guide?

have you set the reletives path in the preferances of this module ?

[Lance_]

You will get a complete blank page if the absolute path is not set in preferences.



I get now a different problem, the xoops page loads but the forum doesn't appear. This used to happen when playing in the xoops templates. As soon as I changed something in the templates of any modules, the smf forum would disappear. The solution was to uninstall the bridge, reinstall and everything was fine.

Now however, it never comes back. I've tried pretty much every combination of Cloned vs Default Template sets, deleting Templates_c folder. It never shows anymore. Xoops version is 2.0.13.2.

Cheers.

[Orstio]

I ran into a similar problem, but mine was based in my own ignorance of the difference between templates and themes.  You obviously can't install a theme as if it were a template. 

[X-Ception]

So far so good, the nly issues i have seen have been mentioned on here, but il be going 'live' with this tonight on my site, in replacement of IPB-X.

fingers crossed and hopeing all works out fine..

my one query is and im sure i ask and you already explained but il ask again

Reg via xoops = will add an account in SMF?
Reg via SMF = will add an account via Xoops?

if thats the case, great, BUT avatars if i recall are not shared ? same as sigs, now i could disable all this in xoops profiles but then it well looks crap in the comments section spread throughout the site, is there a way to share these ?

or even have the xoops profiles disabled and have the entire site read from SMF's information for everything

sigs,
avatars,
etc etc

but this takes away of course "the bridge" aspect and moves it more towards an "intergration" concept ? which i can understand put users off ( what happened to the good old days of modding the core !)

[avatar]

Using xoops 2.2.4 and SMF 1.1 RC2...with the bridge:

My smf has disappeared

site: hxxp:esolutionswork.com/ [nonactive]
smf in /forum:
hxxp:esolutionswork.com/forum [nonactive]
In xoops admin, I set absolute path, correctly I think.

Now, I get this message:
"Upgrading the forum...
Don't worry, we will be back shortly with an updated forum. It will only be a minute . "

Any ideas?

Thanks!

[X-Ception]

Using xoops 2.2.4 and SMF 1.1 RC2...with the bridge:

My smf has disappeared

site: http://esolutionswork.com/
smf in /forum:
http://esolutionswork.com/forum
In xoops admin, I set absolute path, correctly I think.

Now, I get this message:
"Upgrading the forum...
Don't worry, we will be back shortly with an updated forum. It will only be a minute . "

Any ideas?

Thanks!

take the forum out of maintenance mode. id assume its set like that when xoops updated have been applied.

[avatar]

Thanks, X-Ception: yes, smf was in maintenance mode. I modded System.php to reset it.
Now, the bridge merely takes user to a blank page. Hmmm...
When I go to smf directly, I get:
"Database Error
Please try again. If you come back to this error screen, report the error to an administrator. "

[X-Ception]

Thanks, X-Ception: yes, smf was in maintenance mode. I modded System.php to reset it.
Now, the bridge merely takes user to a blank page. Hmmm...
When I go to smf directly, I get:
"Database Error
Please try again. If you come back to this error screen, report the error to an administrator. "

could try the repair_settings.php in download section, but its a lil vague from that msg

[Orstio]

my one query is and im sure i ask and you already explained but il ask again

Reg via xoops = will add an account in SMF?
Reg via SMF = will add an account via Xoops?

Yes, migration works both ways, but the Xoops user won't be migrated to SMF until after the first login.

if thats the case, great, BUT avatars if i recall are not shared ? same as sigs, now i could disable all this in xoops profiles but then it well looks crap in the comments section spread throughout the site, is there a way to share these ?

or even have the xoops profiles disabled and have the entire site read from SMF's information for everything

sigs,
avatars,
etc etc

Not done for the current release, but can be for the next.    The issue here is still that changes made in Xoops won't be reflected in SMF, but changes in SMF will reflect in Xoops. 

[X-Ception]

Not done for the current release, but can be for the next.    The issue here is still that changes made in Xoops won't be reflected in SMF, but changes in SMF will reflect in Xoops. 

well if it can be done then great, its very simple to disable user profile segments within xoops profile module so that wouldnt be too hard if xoops could pick it all our of SMF

SMF avatar management is far better ( ive hated this aspect of xoops for some time )

my final question is ( sorry i have a few )

comments on the xoops site push the users post count up, now going by what you say xoops will reflect the correct post count if a user posts in SMF xoops will pick up on it but not vice versa ?

[Orstio]

The Xoops article comment system looks like it can probably be replaced by something similar to the discussbot in Joomla, but I'll have to take a look at how that works first.

[ShaneR]

I was bored so I decided to test xoops locally (never have before) and then the SMF module.

Followed the instructions fine.  But now I can't login from either xoops or wrapped SMF. I get this error:

2: mysql_fetch_assoc(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL result resource
File: G:\Program Files\Apache Group\Apache2\htdocs\Xoops\modules\smf\index.php
Line: 202

Not sure what's going on there