[Theme] Simplicity (SMF v1.0.5 - 1.1RC2)

[Apnomis]

Any news

[Jerry]

Like I said, if you can use the theme... It will work fine for 1.0.2 1.0.2 was mainly source code changes. You can use it until he releases a update.

[Apnomis]

Like I said, if you can use the theme... It will work fine for 1.0.2 1.0.2 was mainly source code changes. You can use it until he releases a update.

Sorry Jerry, I wasn't referring to that. I was referring to the upcoming new version of this theme, with the enhancements I need to be able to launch this theme on my site! I was hoping it would of been ready by this weekend...

[destalk]

Someone remind me what enhancements we are waiting for?

My only issue is that I still have problems with some users when posting using the 'Quick Reply' function. Sometimes the post just doesn't work.

[Burpee]

Same problem w/ me, Destalk.

[Apnomis]

See my previous posts. The layout and design is fantastic, but it lacks functionality my forum would require, in essence I find it too simple! I'm sure it is fine for many people but it does not currently meet my requirements.

I've offered to pay him to make the changes 3 times, but he says he is happy to add the options to the free theme for free as I don't actually want him to do any customisation or site integration (I can do that myself), just bring back some of the things he cut out...

Maybe he should create a branch off theme to Simplicity, with the clear layout be without the lack of basic functionality, hmmm clear but functional... why not call is Clarity lol! Anyway the options he's adding will be made as options I think, so everyone can fit it around their requirements.

I just hope he get's time to fit it into his schedule soon!

[destalk]

Same problem w/ me, Destalk.

Ah, now that's interesting. I know that I thought that it was my customisations that were doing this and Bloc managed to get me a 'stable' template. But the problems started coming back again. It's an odd one. Do you have an estimate of what percentage of users this is affecting? I thought that it was just the one at first, but I've had reports from two or three now, which is concerning.  I though that it had something to do with when I changed certain admin settings, but I can't put my finger on it...

Any ideas Bloc?

[bloc]

Apnomis, it will come. Patience.

destalk / Burpee - if it still persist to give errors, I will go through that file(Display.template.php) from scratch. I am sure it must be a very subtle placement of code.

[destalk]

destalk / Burpee - if it still persist to give errors, I will go through that file(Display.template.php) from scratch. I am sure it must be a very subtle placement of code.

Hi Bloc

Yep, it seems to still be giving problems. It started affecting 2 new users earlier today.

Thanks for your help.

[Apnomis]

Strange, I'm using it on my test forum and the quick reply works fine? Strange that it only effects one or two members. That to me doesn't suggest a problem with Simplicity, but with how the user has their PC and/or user account configured.

Have you been able to issolate what makes the effected users different?

[Burpee]

I'm not behind my own computer at this moment, but I have experienced the exact problem Destalk has been referring to myself. Whenever I click "Preview", it just turns the fields in the form to "unmodifyable" (or however that's called) and returns me to the page I was on before trying to preview. I experienced this using FireFox, haven't tested it in Internet Explorer. The symptoms occur only on boards using the Simplicity theme.

[destalk]

What Burpee said, it's nothing to do with the computer or the user account - although I understand how one could come to that conclusion.

It's especially hard to spot because most user accounts seem to work fine (at least, to the best of my knowledge). But certain  user accounts will develop this problem - which sometimes disappears and sometimes then reappears -  regardless of what computer, browser, or computer platform is being used. It's not to do with any account settings, as I have tested duplicate user accounts with identical settings.

It may, however, have something to do with the admin changing some settings whilst a certain user is logged in - or in-between posts. But I am yet to be able to put my finger on it. And, like Burpee, this only affects those users with the Simplicity theme.

It is very very odd... and I don't claim to even begin to understand it. 

[Miraenda]

So the issue only occurs when the quick reply option is selected by the user or admin for the board, the user places a reply into the quick reply and then clicks the "preview" button?  The question would be, how did each of you choose to setup the quick reply on the board? Did you originally choose it as default always on for all users or pick that option later, or does your board not have quick reply set at all letting users make the choice?  If you did choose to have it default on the board for all members at the beginning of the board configuration or afterwards, did you choose to use the "Change the default member specific options" to set it up or the "Reset member specific options for all members" one?

For those users affected, have them remove the quick reply option and re-add it to see what happens perhaps?  It must be related to how quick replies are handled by the theme itself...

[destalk]

Well in my case, it was always enabled by admin for all users - I see it as integral to the theme that the quick reply is enabled. Resetting it, doesn't appear to help for the affected users.

It's not just when the user clicks the 'Preview' button. It also happens when the user tries to post usng the Quick Post. I have one user that is unable to post or preview at all. Another user cannot post the first time they log in, but if they go back and try again, the post does work. At one point the main Admin user could not post either. I uploaded a fresh copy of "Display.template.php" and it solved the problem for most users (AFAIK). But the next time that one user logged in, they were once again unable to preview or post.

I'm sure that it must have something to do with something that the admin changed - in relation to something specific in the user accoun -  but it's mpossible to know quite what.

[destalk]

Actually, if I remember rightly, I suspect that it has something to do with resetting member's themes such as returning the the thread once they have posted. But I'm grasping at straws now. 

[destalk]

OK. I think that I may have cracked this.

I logged into the user account with the most persistent refusal to post and changed some settings in the user Profile one-by-one. The last one I changed was "Show quick-moderation on message index as", which was selected. I changed this to 'Don't Show' and the user was suddenly able to post again.

I'm a bit confused as to why this option is even available to the user, as they are not a moderator or administrator.... 

Does this make any sense to anyone?

[Apnomis]

Ah that may be the bug then? Maybe somewhere in Simplicity the code that dictates whether or not that option is available has been changed somehow? That's why it's only on the Simplicity theme and only effecting a few users. Those without quick moderation are ok, those with quick moderation that should have access to it are ok (because I have it on and QR works), but those with quick moderation that shouldn't have access to it but turned it on out of curiosity are having problems, presumably it's causing some kind of conflict?

Sounds like a long shot, but somehow seems logical! What you should do now is create a new dummy account, then see if the profile contains quick moderation, if it does turn it on and see if the dummy account has trouble using quick reply!

[destalk]

Well, I've run a test with one user account and it does seem to be connected to that. However, it also seems to have a bearing as to whether the option "Return to topics after posting by default.", is turned on or not.

Also, once a thread has been posted on by the affected user, they can then appear to be able to post on it again without a problem. If they then go to a new thread, they are unable to post again.

There are so many different possible variations of this, that it may take a while to isolate the exact cause...

[bloc]

destalk, I am doing it anew now, taking care of not changing to much on these issues. Then we'll see if it behaves otherwise.

[destalk]

Thanks, as ever, Bloc.