500 Internal Service Error when trying to install package

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winniethepooh

Quote from: Arantor on April 20, 2013, 10:16:56 PM
Not use Windows hosting?
Change the configuration in IIS if you have access to it? Failing that, get your host to make things writable?
Install mods manually?

Those are pretty much your options. FWIW, almost everyone runs SMF on Linux hosting on real servers, not Windows. It generally performs so much better.


with all due respect, its an 8core/32gb ram setup and  it purrs like a kitten and i pay nothing for the hosting. almost everynight it seems to go down for about 20-30 minutes roughly, around 3am.  i guess its a good time for me to start manually installing mods, expanding horizons i guess. And about your windows comment, yes i love and prefer Linux due to its high performance, security and compatability, but  all the freehosting services that operate on linux seem to have limited databases, connections per hour etcetera, where as this is a wideopen connection with a databse up to 100mb. no other free host offers that. the cpanel and ftp (as well as the chmodding you mentioned) limitations can be frustrating at times though. thanks for your input Arantor. Its always nice to have an expert opinion. you wouldn't happen to know how to setup a lamp install with webpuppy would you? i know very little about the terminal in linux. i
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Arantor

Quotewith all due respect,

With all due respect, what you have to say is actually irrelevant at this point in time.

Give the same hardware, a Linux server will run SMF better than a Windows server will.

Quotebut  all the freehosting services that operate on linux seem to have limited databases, connections per hour etcetera

That's because Linux allows them to properly lock such things down without too much hassle. You get exactly what you pay for.

I pay for my hosting and I'm *very* happy with it. Being on a VPS I have a lot of flexibility, including the ability to set whatever limits I want on such things.

If you don't know how to use a terminal in Linux, either learn or get a separate package like cPanel to do it for you.
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winniethepooh

Quote from: Arantor on April 20, 2013, 10:52:58 PM
Quotewith all due respect,

With all due respect, what you have to say is actually irrelevant at this point in time.

Give the same hardware, a Linux server will run SMF better than a Windows server will.

Quotebut  all the freehosting services that operate on linux seem to have limited databases, connections per hour etcetera


Yes, but Linux will eat up the ram alot better per connection. The reason its faster is due to the multithreading support, or so i heard. And im glad to hear that your hosting is happy. right  now im just testing the waters and getting used to operating websites. should i ever need to upgrade, i might ask you for a recommendation on a host. i've heard in-motion was good.
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Arantor

QuoteYes, but Linux will eat up the ram alot better per connection. The reason its faster is due to the multithreading support, or so i heard. And im glad to hear that your hosting is happy. right  now im just testing the waters and getting used to operating websites. should i ever need to upgrade, i might ask you for a recommendation on a host. i've heard in-motion was good.

Says who? Depends on the application and how it's configured. Badly configured, sure, but that's only to be expected. But stick nginx and PHP-FPM on there and it'll fly well beyond IIS+PHP-SAPI's limits. Or even Apache/Windows+PHP-SAPI.

You realise that you can get multi-threaded support on Windows too, right? But it's nothing to do with that.

For given scenarios, yes, you're correct. For the broader generalities, you're clutching at straws and should probably go read up on this stuff.
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winniethepooh

Quote from: Arantor on April 20, 2013, 11:38:15 PM
QuoteYes, but Linux will eat up the ram alot better per connection. The reason its faster is due to the multithreading support, or so i heard. And im glad to hear that your hosting is happy. right  now im just testing the waters and getting used to operating websites. should i ever need to upgrade, i might ask you for a recommendation on a host. i've heard in-motion was good.

Says who? Depends on the application and how it's configured. Badly configured, sure, but that's only to be expected. But stick nginx and PHP-FPM on there and it'll fly well beyond IIS+PHP-SAPI's limits. Or even Apache/Windows+PHP-SAPI.

You realise that you can get multi-threaded support on Windows too, right? But it's nothing to do with that.

For given scenarios, yes, you're correct. For the broader generalities, you're clutching at straws and should probably go read up on this stuff.
You don't have to be so condescending about it. I'm just repeating what i've gleaned from reading etcetera. I'm far from an expert, and i don't claim to be.
"But I'm tryin' Ringo.I'm tryin' real hard to be the Shepherd."

Arantor

That's the thing, all the time you're parroting misinformation, I need to do something to make you wake up and realise that you're parroting misinformation. Gentle correction already has shown not to work
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winniethepooh

Quote from: Arantor on April 20, 2013, 11:52:54 PM
That's the thing, all the time you're parroting misinformation, I need to do something to make you wake up and realise that you're parroting misinformation. Gentle correction already has shown not to work
i didn't parrot any misinformation. i offered my advice, what i thought to be right and i was proven wrong. there was no gentle correction on your part. you have a knack for being contrary. i don't mind you being blunt i just wish you wouldn't be so insulting about it, thats all. you were a n00b once too
"But I'm tryin' Ringo.I'm tryin' real hard to be the Shepherd."

Arantor

I tried gentle correction in other topics, that didn't work.

Oh, yes, I was a noob once, but I was a noob who figured things out for myself and didn't go around forums repeating what I wasn't sure about...
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MrPhil

Quote from: winniethepooh on April 21, 2013, 01:01:22 AM
i offered my advice, what i thought to be right and i was proven wrong. there was no gentle correction on your part. you have a knack for being contrary. i don't mind you being blunt i just wish you wouldn't be so insulting about it, thats all. you were a n00b once too

Heh, heh. Ran into the Arantor buzzsaw, did you? Welcome to the club!

Storman™

......and it's all gone very much off topic lol 

Back to the topic peeps otherwise it's not fair on the topic starter  ;)

winniethepooh

Quote from: Arantor on April 21, 2013, 11:10:56 AM
I tried gentle correction in other topics, that didn't work.

Oh, yes, I was a noob once, but I was a noob who figured things out for myself and didn't go around forums repeating what I wasn't sure about...

i figure things out for myself too. and yes, you did going around spoutin thiings, off and you had someone to correct you everytime im sure. youre no jesus so get off your crosss.
"But I'm tryin' Ringo.I'm tryin' real hard to be the Shepherd."

Arantor

Quoteand yes, you did going around spoutin thiings, off and you had someone to correct you everytime im sure

You mean back in 2003 when I started learning PHP, I didn't have regular internet access... bit hard to post on forums without that.
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Deaks

guys play nice now, this doesnt help the OP does it :P

However what its worth winnie, ive been around here for years and I have seldom seen Arantor post incorrect info.

But lets drop it, and help the OP yeh? good
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winniethepooh

Quote from: Runic on April 21, 2013, 04:31:33 PM
guys play nice now, this doesnt help the OP does it :P

However what its worth winnie, ive been around here for years and I have seldom seen Arantor post incorrect info.

But lets drop it, and help the OP yeh? good

im having the same(or similar) issue as the OP. why im here in the first place
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Storman™

Quoteim having the same(or similar) issue as the OP. why im here in the first place

Golden rule is you start your OWN topic, the issue may be similar but cause may be different due to your own set-up.

Hijacking another person's topic is not on.

End of.

winniethepooh

Quote from: Storman™ on April 21, 2013, 05:59:30 PM
Quoteim having the same(or similar) issue as the OP. why im here in the first place

Golden rule is you start your OWN topic, the issue may be similar but cause may be different due to your own set-up.

Hijacking another person's topic is not on.

End of.
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