Re: Announcing the start of SMF 3.0 development

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Installed successfully in php 8.1.29, up and running.  Still got the exdates error, but was able to continue to admin setup.  Looks exactly like 2.1.  Will play with it tonight.

[Suki]

Well, that's part of the problem.  Github is built for development, it's not at all user friendly for us dumber people .  But I think dumb feedback is useful once you have a useable alpha.  Which leads to second point ....

By definition, anything in Alpha state cannot be "Usable".

[shawnb61]

As a refresher, the goals of 3.0 were shared last November:
https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=587334.0

[Sir Osis of Liver]

By definition, anything in Alpha state cannot be "Usable".

I'm not suggesting it should be useable for production (think I said that), just useable in the sense that there's a current package available that will install and run for people who are interested in an early look.

And it looks/works exactly like 2.1.  But not in php 8.0.30.

[Kindred]

But that's the point that we are making sir Osis...   alpha IS NOT INTENDED for "dumb" users. It's not ready.


THAT is why we don't make a huge announcement about it.
Technically inclined users can and should use github.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Well, this dumb user has it installed.  It's never to early to start complaining about it.

[Diego Andrés]

But not in php 8.0.30.

MySQL 8.0.30*
The db error/warning isn't about PHP.

Unless you mean that's what you're running... which should be fine for now.

And it looks/works exactly like 2.1.

That's intended, in the roadmap you'll see which alpha is supposed to have more theme changes.

[Sesquipedalian]

At this point in time, the changes that an end user could easily see are:

• Support for recurring events in the calendar.
• URL autolinking now takes place in the editor as the user writes the post, rather than happening later.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

MySQL 8.0.30*
The db error/warning isn't about PHP.

Unless you mean that's what you're running... which should be fine for now.

Install fails in php 8.0.30, all tables are populated, but cannot create admin account.  Installed it successfully in php 8.1, but it won't load in 8.0, wsod.  Hopefully 3.0 will not end up being that fussy, we're still seeing forums running in php 5.x.

[Tyrsson]

we're still seeing forums running in php 5.x.

Which is one reason you see so many projects evolve so slowly. Because the projects concern themselves tooooo much on supporting every php version in the wild.

If your host does not provide at minimum php 8.1 you need a new host. Period. Why? Because they are lazy.