Upgrading from 1.1.21 to...

[ducpainter]

Looks like that's where your forum is installed.  1.1.21 will run in php 5.6 but will log a lot of errors.  5.6 went eol over six years ago.  Don't think it will run in php 7, definitely not in php 8.  Supported versions of php are 8.1, 8.2, 8.3, 8.4.  Anything below 8.1 is eol.  2.1.4 supports 8.1 and 8.2.  Check your PMs.

...and that's why I want to upgrade to 2.1.4

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Ok, the forum is installed in /httpdocs, you uploaded the upgrade package one level above that.  Do you have a local backup of your database?

[ducpainter]

Ok, the forum is installed in /httpdocs, you uploaded the upgrade package one level above that.  Do you have a local backup of your database?

No. I can copy it and download it. Does that work?

[Sir Osis of Liver]

You should be able to d/l a database backup in your host control panel, or with phpmyadmin.  The sql files in /httpdocs are from June 2022, you need to dump the current database.  Looks like it's around half a gb, so control panel is best bet.  Do that now if you can, the upgrade modifies the database extensively, don't want to try it without a backup.

[ducpainter]

You should be able to d/l a database backup in your host control panel, or with phpmyadmin.  The sql files in /httpdocs are from June 2022, you need to dump the current database.  Looks like it's around half a gb, so control panel is best bet.  Do that now if you can, the upgrade modifies the database extensively, don't want to try it without a backup.

Give me a minute.

I do have a full backup of the site including everything on the server. I'll see if I can back up the db separately.

I want to thank you for your help in advance.

[ducpainter]

I made a copy. Download is a no go. I can put the forum in maintenance mode, make another, and save it on the server, but there's no option to download.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

See if you can save it to /httpdocs/db_backup.

[ducpainter]

See if you can save it to /httpdocs/db_backup.

I tried, but I honestly don't think I know how to do that.

I'm using Plesk for a control panel, and it only allows copying within if you get my drift.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Where did you save it on server?

[ducpainter]

Where did you save it on server?

In my Plesk control panel in the domain section for ducatimonsterforum.org Are you familiar with Plesk? It's the only way an ancient Luddite like myself can administer a website.

It's really kind of humorous that since I started this thread I've been inundated with spammers trying to register wanting to 'Talk to Admin'

[ducpainter]

Wait...I figured out how to do a sql dump to my 'puter.

Is that what you were looking for?

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Yes, you should have a local database backup, that's where your content is stored (that and /attachments).  Dump it two or three times, check that the byte count is the same to confirm it's complete.

I've only used Plesk on couple of forums, it's difficult compared to cPanel or DirectAdmin, which are more common on shared servers.  There are a couple of things you'll need to do before attempting upgrade.  2.1.4 requires php 7.0 or higher, you're at 5.6.40, and mysql 5.6 or higher, you're at 5.0.11.  If you can't upgrade them in Plesk, ask your host support to do it.  2.1.4 will run in php 5.6 with a lot of errors, so it's best to upgrade php before upgrading the forum.  Don't know if the 2.1.4 upgrade will run in 5.6.

Going offline shortly, will get back to this tomorrow.

[ducpainter]

I have all php handlers provisioned up to 8.3.17. I don't think that will be an issue.

I'll do some more test dumps to ascertain byte count.

Talk tomorrow afternoon. I need to work on my BAC.

Thanks again, sir osis.

[Doug Heffernan]

ducatimonsterforum.org

A bit off topic, but you've got a very nice forum there. I was hit with a wave of nostalgia as it reminded my of my 'Bella' back in my younger, happy and care free days. Those were the times. (Yes, I did name my Ducati, until it made my then girlfriend jealous )

[ducpainter]

ducatimonsterforum.org

A bit off topic, but you've got a very nice forum there. I was hit with a wave of nostalgia as it reminded my of my 'Bella' back in my younger, happy and care free days. Those were the times. (Yes, I did name my Ducati, until it made my then girlfriend jealous )

No worries about being off topic, and thanks very much.

It started quite a while ago, was vibrant for quite some time, and now it's pretty quiet. It is a pretty good source of technical info for the Ducati's from the mid 90's till the teens when Ducati revamped their designs. They still use the desmo system, but the bikes are very different.

I've delayed upgrading due to custom mods to the theme that were done by an Admin with the skill. He's no longer active and the members like the look. With 2.1.4 I can get a lot of that look back with a theme and some mods. I'm tired of having to babysit the server. I will say that since I removed unused mods, and themes, my 504 errors have ceased. Naturally the .php errors haven't, so I think it's time to upgrade while I'm motivated, and halfway there.

[Doug Heffernan]

It started quite a while ago, was vibrant for quite some time, and now it's pretty quiet. It is a pretty good source of technical info for the Ducati's from the mid 90's till the teens when Ducati revamped their designs. They still use the desmo system, but the bikes are very different.

I agree. It has a lot of interesting content from what I saw. They don't make them old school anymore like the mid 90's 900SS/SP, which I personally think is one of the most beautiful bikes ever made.

I've delayed upgrading due to custom mods to the theme that were done by an Admin with the skill. He's no longer active and the members like the look. With 2.1.4 I can get a lot of that look back with a theme and some mods. I'm tired of having to babysit the server. I will say that since I removed unused mods, and themes, my 504 errors have ceased. Naturally the .php errors haven't, so I think it's time to upgrade while I'm motivated, and halfway there.

What mods are you using on your current forum? Maybe their upgraded versions can be found at our Mods Database? Regarding the upgrade, I think it high time that you do it as the version that you are using is very old and it has a lot of security issues, not to mention the bugs. Also the php version that is supported by your forum version is riddled with security vulnerabilities.

[ducpainter]

My favorite is the Terblance SBK...748/916/996/998. I have a 996 turned 853 for the track, which is an overbored 748, and a 93 SS as a backup track bike.

Simple Portal, Stop Spammer, and Simple A/V embedder. I had tapatalk, but I uninstalled it in preparation for my failed upgrade attempt. There were old mods, and themes, that had been abandoned and never deleted. My understanding is 2.1.x is more android friendly. I'd just as soon not have it.

I've searched the mod site for replacements for the mods I'm using now and found some that will work. I may or may not add Tiny Portal, as Simple doesn't appear to work with 2.1.x. I've also found a theme that is pretty close to the customized theme we were running.

In the long run this upgrade will be good all around.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Back online.  Your forum is still running in php 5.6, mysql 5.0 - https://ducatimonsterforum.org/phpinfo.php

SimplePortal was not updated to 2.1, but I believe EZPortal will replace it and inherit the SP settings.  You can replace Stop Spammer with Stop Forum Spam, but this mod is simpler, very effective, and utilizes the built-in verification questions feature.  There's a 2.1 version of A/V Embedder.

[ducpainter]

Back online.  Your forum is still running in php 5.6, mysql 5.0 - https://ducatimonsterforum.org/phpinfo.php

SimplePortal was not updated to 2.1, but I believe EZPortal will replace it and inherit the SP settings.  You can replace Stop Spammer with Stop Forum Spam, but this mod is simpler, very effective, and utilizes the built-in verification questions feature.  There's a 2.1 version of A/V Embedder.

I haven't pushed the button.

Thanks for the recs. I'll investigate, and likely follow them. You've been immensely helpful...particularly with the map you drew, and coaxing me along to see what I was somewhat blind in acknowledging.

I'm going to try the upgrade tomorrow after a fresh backup and sql dumps.

It'll be fine.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Your host package is a bit off the beaten path, you've been running on an obsolete platform, but if you upgrade php and mysql before running the upgrade it should be ok.  Good luck.