SMF for 50.000 users ?

Started by storton, April 04, 2008, 07:58:13 AM

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storton

April 04, 2008, 07:58:13 AM
Hi,

Has anybody here ever managed/installed such an SMF forum for a community of potentially 50.000 users ?
I would be happy to have some feedbacks, regarding performances.
- resources requirements ?
- performances ?
- sessions ?
- even if not all users participate, what is the impact with 50.000 records in the users table ?
- etc...

Thank you very much in advance for your information.

Samuel

Ben_S

#1
April 04, 2008, 08:18:58 AM
This forum has 135,170.
Liverpool FC Forum with 14 million+ posts.

SantaClaws

#2
April 04, 2008, 08:30:07 AM
thats a lot gaiaonline has 12,305,000 memeber and 1,305,000,000 posts

storton

#3
April 04, 2008, 08:32:53 AM
Hi Ben,

Thank you for your answer.

Does anybody have an idea of this forum platform infrastructure ?
- CPU + RAM resources ?
- load-balancing infrastructure or single database + single file system, etc...
- is the SMF product for SMF community installed identically to any other SMF forum, or is it adapted to the specific and not very common amount of massive number of users ?

Thanks
Samuel

Dannii

#4
April 04, 2008, 08:52:28 AM
Quote from: pk3r 0wn on April 04, 2008, 08:30:07 AMthats a lot gaiaonline has 12,305,000 memeber and 1,305,000,000 posts
Yes, but they're not using SMF, nor are they running on only one server (like Ben's.)

QuoteDoes anybody have an idea of this forum platform infrastructure ?
- CPU + RAM resources ?
- load-balancing infrastructure or single database + single file system, etc...
- is the SMF product for SMF community installed identically to any other SMF forum, or is it adapted to the specific and not very common amount of massive number of users ?
Look in Ben's signature ;)
The SMF Community Forum is pretty much running on the same software, though they update regularly to what's in SVN. There are a few custom mods to do with various stuff that only simplemachines.org needs, and a custom theme, but other than that it's the same. For large forums there are various things you can change, like installing Sphinx Search support, though that's available to everyone.
"Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise."

SantaClaws

#5
April 04, 2008, 10:09:10 AM
wow whos forum is that in bens sig?

Tristan Perry

#6
April 04, 2008, 10:49:31 AM
Quote from: pk3r 0wn on April 04, 2008, 10:09:10 AM
wow whos forum is that in bens sig?
It's ben's forum... ;D

Rumbaar

#7
April 10, 2008, 07:26:29 PM
Was that info helpful storton?  Though Ben_s's board 'only' has 25K members, it's very active.

From looking at various information the closest big boards I found with over 50K posts have these server configuration at the time of their post.

Members: 60K+
Hardware Configuration : PIII-700 - 512MB ram - 80GB 7200 Samsung 8GB cache harddisk - Debian 3.1

Approximate Members:  70k+
HARDWARE CONFIGURATION: Single server. Dual Intel Xeon 2.4 Ghz processors, RedHat Linux, 4 GB RAM.

Approximate Members:  46K+
HARDWAE CONFIGURATION(S):
4 servers AMD Athlon 64 3700+, 2 Gig RAM (Processing Web Requests)
2 servers AMD Athlon 64 3700+, 2 Gig RAM (Processing Database Requests)
1 server AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+ 1 Gig RAM (Processing Images/Avatars/Uploads)
1 server AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+ 1 Gig RAM as Loadbalancer and handles email, ftp, dns

Hope that gives you some additional info to work with.
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rumfa

#8
May 10, 2008, 10:50:03 PM Last Edit: May 12, 2008, 03:43:38 PM by rumfa
I've seen smf sites with 500k+ members, posts...well enough :D and working smooth

aldo

#9
May 11, 2008, 01:54:07 AM
Also, keep in mind this SMF site is hosted on a couple different servers, one in Portland OR (US), and I don't know where the other one is ;)

You can see what server you are "being served by" in the footer:
QuotePage created in 0.037 seconds with 15 queries.
Page served by: 207.210.95.101

niko

#10
May 11, 2008, 05:28:35 AM
Quote from: aldo on May 11, 2008, 01:54:07 AM
Also, keep in mind this SMF site is hosted on a couple different servers, one in Portland OR (US), and I don't know where the other one is ;)

You can see what server you are "being served by" in the footer:
QuotePage created in 0.037 seconds with 15 queries.
Page served by: 207.210.95.101

I think Portland server is for public downloads only.
Both www servers and database server are in same datacenter. Also note that these servers serve also SMF website and not all are registered or active on forum. (For example, Admin panels shows news from SMF which are downloaded from these servers)
Websites: Madjoki || (2 links retracted by team, links out of date and taken over.)
Mods: SMF Arcade, Related topics, SMF Project Tools, Post History

WIP Mods: Bittorrent Tracker || SMF Wiki

SantaClaws

#11
May 11, 2008, 11:36:06 AM
How do people have one forum and they get combined is it somethink like Multi-Forum Client?

青山 素子

#12
May 11, 2008, 05:41:47 PM
I believe Red and White KOP is still on one server, and it has over 4.3 million posts and 30 thousand members.

Quote from: pk3r 0wn on May 11, 2008, 11:36:06 AM
How do people have one forum and they get combined is it somethink like Multi-Forum Client?

I'm not sure what you are asking.
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SantaClaws

#13
May 11, 2008, 05:49:00 PM
Hmm have you heard or www.moparscape.org/smf and www.moparisthebest.org/smf ? They have it.

青山 素子

#14
May 11, 2008, 05:53:36 PM
Quote from: pk3r 0wn on May 11, 2008, 05:49:00 PM
Hmm have you heard or www.moparscape.org/smf and www.moparisthebest.org/smf ? They have it.

Maybe you are confused? This topic discussed running multiple servers for a single SMF forum, not multiple SMF forums from a single set of files.
Motoko-chan
Director, Simple Machines

Note: Unless otherwise stated, my posts are not representative of any official position or opinion of Simple Machines.

SantaClaws

#15
May 11, 2008, 05:57:35 PM
Lol you don't get what i mean do you? Look at them to sites you'll they both have same members online same amount of topics , posts and members.

dschwab9

#16
May 12, 2008, 06:56:12 AM Last Edit: May 12, 2008, 06:58:47 AM by dschwab9
As far as the architecture for this site goes, we have a total of 9 servers in 4 geographic locations.  The main cluster in Atlanta that runs the forums and site has 6 machines - 2 web servers, 2 database server, 1 file server, and one server for mail/DNS/development.  We have 2 remote servers for download mirroring - one in Portland and one in Chicago.  The last machine is located at my house and it used for offsite backup.  I'm attaching a flowchart representing our configuration.

We use memcache for sessions and content caching and the Sphinx search engine.

Quick hardware specs:
SQL servers - Intel Quad Core 2.5GHz, 4GB RAM
NFS/memcache server - Intel Quad Core 2.5GHz, 8GB RAM
Web servers - AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual core, 2.8 GHz, 2GB RAM

Dannii

#17
May 12, 2008, 07:11:01 AM
You have a whole server for Sphinx? Wow.
"Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise."

dschwab9

#18
May 12, 2008, 08:20:51 AM
No, Sphinx runs on the "SQL2" server.  That server is a full replica of SQL1  that's used for several things, including backups and sphinx
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