Menu Editor Lite

goran · April 15, 2012, 06:56:27 AM

Easy to say, hard to do - for me.

lurkalot · April 15, 2012, 08:38:16 AM

Quote from: goran on April 13, 2012, 05:36:46 PM
Hi.
After installing this great modification there are no more notifies about new PM like this: "My messages (1) - this number has disappeared. Is there a way to fix it?
Thank you.

Just out of interest, are you saying this mod disables a core feature from SMF when you install it?

goran · April 15, 2012, 11:46:17 AM

In my case, yes.

NanoSector · April 15, 2012, 11:47:28 AM

Quote from: lurkalot on April 15, 2012, 08:38:16 AM
Quote from: goran on April 13, 2012, 05:36:46 PM
Hi.
After installing this great modification there are no more notifies about new PM like this: "My messages (1) - this number has disappeared. Is there a way to fix it?
Thank you.

Just out of interest, are you saying this mod disables a core feature from SMF when you install it?

Not really "disables", it just doesn't support it.

lurkalot · April 15, 2012, 01:01:45 PM

Quote from: Yoshi2889 on April 15, 2012, 11:47:28 AM
Quote from: lurkalot on April 15, 2012, 08:38:16 AM

Just out of interest, are you saying this mod disables a core feature from SMF when you install it?
Not really "disables", it just doesn't support it.

Thanks, but doesn't that amount to the same thing, if you can no longer use that standard SMF feature.

I know this mod makes it nice and easy to add menu items without having to code them manually, which is great, (always wanted this as a core feature) But I didn't see any mention of it taking away any smf functionality.

Might sound like I'm being picky, but maybe this info needs to be added to the first post, and the download page.

Matthew K. · April 15, 2012, 01:27:24 PM

That's not a feature...it doesn't take away SMF functionality, at all.

lurkalot · April 16, 2012, 03:39:34 AM

Quote from: Labradoodle-360 on April 15, 2012, 01:27:24 PM
That's not a feature...it doesn't take away SMF functionality, at all.

OK, then I apologise. I must of got what the OP said wrong. Sorry Labradoodle-360.

Matthew K. · April 16, 2012, 07:54:13 PM

It would be nice if Menu Editor Lite provided a PM counter, but it doesn't and won't.

IchBin™ · April 17, 2012, 10:58:01 AM

Quote from: Labradoodle-360 on April 15, 2012, 01:27:24 PM
That's not a feature...it doesn't take away SMF functionality, at all.

Lab, it removes the functionality to notify someone that they have PM's. I have no problem with this mod removing that feature, but it is a feature. And since you have some users asking about why this disappeared, it might be a good idea to let people know this mod doesn't restore that feature (however small it is.)

Some people like me don't always use the PM pop-up to notify of new PM's. So I often look at the menu for this when I first login to a site.

NanoSector · April 17, 2012, 11:00:30 AM

Quote from: IchBin™ on April 17, 2012, 10:58:01 AM
Quote from: Labradoodle-360 on April 15, 2012, 01:27:24 PM
That's not a feature...it doesn't take away SMF functionality, at all.

Lab, it removes the functionality to notify someone that they have PM's. I have no problem with this mod removing that feature, but it is a feature. And since you have some users asking about why this disappeared, it might be a good idea to let people know this mod doesn't restore that feature (however small it is.) Some people like me don't always use the PM pop-up to notify of new PM's. So I often look at the menu for this when I first login to a site.

I always disable the pop-up and look at the counter...heh.

Kindred · April 17, 2012, 12:05:04 PM

I will note that ANY change to the navigation menu removes this....

For example, at one point, I moved the PM menu to be a submenu item of "User Stuff" (like profile, etc). By moving it to a sub menu, it stopped displaying new PMs...

Matthew K. · April 17, 2012, 12:20:47 PM

@Brad - I don't believe something as small as a counter is really a "feature". I agree it'd be nice, but I don't think it's something big enough to say "Hey, I remove this!!!!" because in reality, many mods remove "small" things that I wouldn't even consider "features".

@Yoshi - Me too. I never use the PM popup cause it's annoying when you can just look in the menu.

@Kindred - Actually, I think the counter stays as long as the array location stays the same, the count is added in later down in Subs.php, to the location of the PM button, you might actually get undefined errors if you move the PM button and don't correct the PM counter location.

IchBin™ · April 17, 2012, 01:19:04 PM

Quote from: Labradoodle-360 on April 17, 2012, 12:20:47 PM
@Brad - I don't believe something as small as a counter is really a "feature". I agree it'd be nice, but I don't think it's something big enough to say "Hey, I remove this!!!!" because in reality, many mods remove "small" things that I wouldn't even consider "features".

That's fine if you don't agree, but software development disagree's with you.

I could see removing a link, or text, or image or something not being a feature. But a feature usually serves some functionality in most cases. Like being able to tell if you have unread PM's. It's fine if you don't want to let everyone know, but it'll save you from having to answer to the next person that comes along wondering why their PM notification option disappeared from their menu.

Matthew K. · April 17, 2012, 01:22:56 PM

I never said I don't think it should be included, but simply not in this version. But I also don't think it's specifically a PROBLEM.

Josh101 · April 17, 2012, 02:56:00 PM

He just simply said the pm counter is a PRO feature not a FREE feature. I guess this may sound bad making what once was a free feature now you must pay for it if you want any support but I assume that he has to provided extra coding for this to work and in such this extra coding is what you will pay for in the PRO version. I hope this helps.

NanoSector · April 17, 2012, 02:56:30 PM

The Pro version will be free

Matthew K. · April 17, 2012, 02:58:22 PM

Thank you for explaining it, Josh!

Basically, I don't want to spend time patching up the lite version with improvements when the Pro version will contain everything you can dream of, including a PM button counter (optional).

But Yoshi is also right, the pro version will also be free.

Josh101 · April 17, 2012, 08:54:08 PM

Free both ways ok cool. So I got tiny portal for my "Page editor"

Which oddly are called articles. So is there a way or will be a way to add articles aka pages to the navigation using lite/pro mods.

Matthew K. · April 17, 2012, 08:58:29 PM

Menu Editor Pro will provide support for portal pages, to easily add buttons for them. You can use an external link to it now.

OCJ · April 17, 2012, 11:21:26 PM

It was great to see this mod when it first arrived... except that the free version had 'side effects' like losing other mod menu items etc ... but not the pro version.
And the pro version was to be 50$/yr.

I guess you spent a lot of time on it but people get several professional themes for that with a years support and upgrade. Just for 1 mod doing what SMF should really do is pushing it.

I decided straight away I wouldn't be paying that price. It seems like a few others don't like the pro version offering features that recover changes made by the free version.

Then the free pro version comment...

I think better to have a donation for it, and really make it clear without a minimum donation it might not be maintained. I personally would give something - it is a much needed mod until hopefully this functionality is included in smf 3.0.
Or perhaps only offer customizing support with small paypal payment. I think people who make those requests can pay a little.

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