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[Arantor]

Which variation of language game is it? Tutnese, Pig Latin, Ubbi Dubbi?

[Kindred]

xrunner,

I think you have missed the point.

"I think greenhouses are beautiful"
This is not a valid nor an invalid opinion. This is a opinion of perception, it has no fact or non-fact associated with it, because "beautiful" has no objective definition.

"Lizard people rule the world from the shadows"
This is an INVALID opinion. Facts DISPROVE this statement.

"Babe Ruth was a great baseball player"
This is a valid opinion, while still being debateable. Babe Ruth has characteristics that can be termed as objectively "great" when it comes to his playing baseball. He has an awesome record and hit home runs regularly.

"Babe Ruth was a lucky baseball player
This is a valid opinion, while still being debateable. Babe Ruth has characteristics that can be termed as objectively "lucky" when it comes to his playing baseball. He hit home runs regularly while being out of shape.

"Babe Ruth was not such a great baseball player"
This is a valid opinion, while still being debateable. Babe Ruth has characteristics that can be termed as objectively "not-so-great" when it comes to his playing baseball. Especially at the end of his career, he was fat and slow and only made bases because he hit home runs.

Do you see the differences between the factual opinion and the opinion of perception?


So... no, not every opinion is valid. Opinions which contradict the facts are, in fact, invalid.

[kat]

Which variation of language game is it? Tutnese, Pig Latin, Ubbi Dubbi?

Most consonants get doubled, whilst some get sustituted.

"B" is "Bub", "T" is "Tut", but "C" is "Cash" and "H" is "Hutch".

I'm fluent in gibberish, too.

Now THAT is a valid opinion.

[Arantor]

"I think greenhouses are beautiful"
This is not a valid nor an invalid opinion. This is a opinion of perception, it has no fact or non-fact associated with it, because "beautiful" has no objective definition.

An opinion of perception can still be a valid opinion! Just because 'beautiful' is primarily subjective doesn't change the fact that it can be a valid opinion.

Do you see the differences between the factual opinion and the opinion of perception?

Not all opinions have to be rooted in fact to be valid.


@ K@: *nods* I know the variation. Hell, I once wrote a thing that could translate websites into it.

[Kindred]

but it is my opinion that they do, Arantor.

[kat]

I've considered doing a language pack, for that.

Cockney, too.

[Arantor]

but it is my opinion that they do, Arantor.

And it's my opinion that you're wrong. And I can argue why I believe you to be wrong.

I've considered doing a language pack, for that.

Cockney, too.

There's a lot to translate. It is a rather dull process.

[kat]

I sort of gathered that, as I looked through them.

Still, if I get tediously bored, one year...

[Arantor]

Just think, it took me 3 days to convert English US to English UK >_<

[Kindred]

That's cause you brits use way wierd spellings and phrasings...   we (muricuns) have the stranglehold on "proper english" these days!

[Arantor]

That's cause you brits use way wierd spellings and phrasings...   we (muricuns) have the stranglehold on "proper english" these days!

We were doing our 'weird spellings and phrasings' before you were even a country.

[Kindred]

yeah, but get with the times, man....    we're the new empire!

[Chalky]

we (muricuns) have the stranglehold on "proper english" these days!

Is that "proper" spelt w-r-o-n-g? 

Where's the Klingon language pack?  You can't hope to compete in the inter-planetary forum business without one of those!

And that is my perfectly valid opinion

[Arantor]

Qa'pla!

The problem I have with language packs these days is that I have to fart around making sure I have an appropriate icon for them >_<

[kat]

Double-Dutch is far easier to understand than Yankglish.

[Arantor]

Heh.

You should stop by That Other Site sometime, they have English UK support... and through a quirk of fate, the UK icon comes before the US icon (and for once it wasn't even intentional)

[kat]

A certain Mr. Bryson made me reconsider some Yanks terms, though, I have to confess.

Seems that a lot of the words that I'd considered bastardised, by the Yanks, have, in truth, been bastardised by the English. A lot of those words, when spelt the American way, are the original way.

Not, I hasten to add, their predilection with the letter "Z"...

[Arantor]

You mean words that were tainted by the French and their predilection with the letter U all over the place?

[kat]

That, too.

I mean... Only the Yanks could cripple "Centre" and "Metre", like that...

Takes a special talent, that.

[xrunner]

xrunner,

I think you have missed the point.

Ah he returns to the fray!  I thought you had software problems to attend to?

"I think greenhouses are beautiful"
This is not a valid nor an invalid opinion. This is a opinion of perception, it has no fact or non-fact associated with it, because "beautiful" has no objective definition.

I've already explained why it is, so doing it again is pointless.

"Lizard people rule the world from the shadows"
This is an INVALID opinion. Facts DISPROVE this statement.

Again - you are mixing facts with opinions. That is wrong. Do you understand the difference?

"Babe Ruth was a great baseball player"
This is a valid opinion, while still being debateable. Babe Ruth has characteristics that can be termed as objectively "great" when it comes to his playing baseball. He has an awesome record and hit home runs regularly.


"Babe Ruth was a lucky baseball player
This is a valid opinion, while still being debateable. Babe Ruth has characteristics that can be termed as objectively "lucky" when it comes to his playing baseball. He hit home runs regularly while being out of shape.

"Babe Ruth was not such a great baseball player"
This is a valid opinion, while still being debateable. Babe Ruth has characteristics that can be termed as objectively "not-so-great" when it comes to his playing baseball. Especially at the end of his career, he was fat and slow and only made bases because he hit home runs.

Do you see the differences between the factual opinion and the opinion of perception?

We're talking about valid opinions - not facts. You have the same problem as Mr. Phil - your desire is to mix the two words. Please stop this. I see I have much work to do here. No worries - I'll tough it out until you understand.

If I said "Kindred sucks at telling members when their suggestions are being rejected" That's a valid opinion right?

So... no, not every opinion is valid. Opinions which contradict the facts are, in fact, invalid.

Wrong. Every opinion is valid if it is stated as opinion and not fact. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Now I see why you can't understand that having a spam board is a good idea. You have too many per-conceived biases. We're going to have to work on those.

Oh by the way Runic contradicts you so since he's your boss you lose.