Disable "Like"?

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Most things were invented after Sir Osis turned 35 (over 36 years ago  )

Was asked to install a like mod on client forum, it was crappy so cleaned it up a bit.  Members hated it, was asked to remove it several days later.  It's juvenile, and visually intrusive where it's placed in these posts.

One of the support forums I've used (can't remember which) had a Thanks feature that was similar to 2.0 Karma.  IMO something like that would be more suitable for this forum.

[Antechinus]

Just change the text string to say "Thanks" instead of "Like". Sorted.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

No, that wasn't the point of it.  People who are helpful (i.e., team members) accumulate thanks in their user profile, it's displayed in poster info, same as karma.

[Antechinus]

Ok, so disable likes. Then disable negative karma (admin option since way back when). Then change the text string from "Karma" to "Thanks". Sorted.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Is there karma in 2.1?  Don't see it anywhere.

[Antechinus]

Oh, did they kill it? Good move. Well the point is you could easily tweak the Likes thing to do Thanks instead, and call it to display anywhere you want it. Or disable Likes and install a Thanks mod (which is sure to be available, since there is one for 2.0.x anyway).

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Doesn't look like it counts total likes by member, just displays them by post. 

[Arantor]

Yes, and with good reason. If you start displaying total likes, you start building all the bad behaviours that karma has, where you start gamifying people writing like-bait content rather than good/helpful content and the natural cliques tend to cross like each others' posts. Same way that post count does not indicate anything about quality.

The absence of the sorts of features you're talking about is not an oversight in the design but a very conscious choice to not do it.

Where is that Lol button 

Good to see you here buddy. I think that I read on T.a.z. that you left Smf for good.

That was the original plan but then I got asked to comment on the 2.1 situation especially for the things I was responsible for.

[Antechinus]

I'm tempted to code a mod that randomly likes or unlikes a post when you click on the Likes button.

If you start displaying total likes, you start building all the bad behaviours that karma has, where you start gamifying people writing like-bait content rather than good/helpful content and the natural cliques tend to cross like each others' posts.

TBH that tends to happen even if you don't display the total number of likes.

The only real benefit of likes is that it stops muppets endlessly quoting posts just to reply with "lol bro". They get lazy and click the likes button instead, so it saves on clutter in threads.

[zappaDPJ]

[edit] i think it'd help to move it's placement, personally I don't like where it's located, i think moving it elsewhere would probably help some

I agree. I think it would be better placed to the left of the 'QUOTE' button leaving the 'x person likes this.' message as it currently is.

[Steve]

The only real benefit of likes is that it stops muppets endlessly quoting posts just to reply with "lol bro". They get lazy and click the likes button instead, so it saves on clutter in threads.

You would think that would be the case but muppets will always be muppets. You can't completely code against stupidity.

[Arantor]

You can't completely code against stupidity.

Doesn't stop me trying XD

[Douglas]

[edit] i think it'd help to move it's placement, personally I don't like where it's located, i think moving it elsewhere would probably help some

I agree. I think it would be better placed to the left of the 'QUOTE' button leaving the 'x person likes this.' message as it currently is.

As a professional web developer who is all about visually appealing layouts, I have to agree with zappaDP's suggestion. I would take it a step further and style it just like you've got the "Quote" button.

The only thing I'm going back and forth on: To the left or to the right of "Quote". Since I suspect quoting is done more than liking, I would lean to the right of "Quote".

(And, JUST to annoy the ever living s**t outta Osis... I liked every. single. one. of his posts. )
((This does NOT mean I agree with him. I don't. I just want to reach out and annoy someone today.))

[Arantor]

I'm just a little sad that this is another thing I didn't get right. I suppose the fact no-one's talking about some of the things I added in 2.1 is a hint that the lack of complaints is a sign I did it right because that's the beauty of good design, it's just taken for granted.

Though I kinda wish someone had said something between my introducing it with a screenshot in November 2013 and now...

Oh well, can't win 'em all.

[Antechinus]

The only real benefit of likes is that it stops muppets endlessly quoting posts just to reply with "lol bro". They get lazy and click the likes button instead, so it saves on clutter in threads.

You would think that would be the case but muppets will always be muppets. You can't completely code against stupidity.

lol bro

[Antechinus]

I'm just a little sad that this is another thing I didn't get right.

When it comes to personal aesthetic preference you cannot please everyone all of the time. This is why we have open source code and custom themes. If it annoys them, they can change it. If they prefer to be annoyed, that's their problem.

As a professional web developer who is all about visually appealing layouts, I have to agree with zappaDP's suggestion. I would take it a step further and style it just like you've got the "Quote" button.

The only thing I'm going back and forth on: To the left or to the right of "Quote". Since I suspect quoting is done more than liking, I would lean to the right of "Quote".

Other option: keep the same position, but style it like the quickbuttons.

Although if it was amalgamated with the quickbuttons the ideal place for it might be last in the list. That way it would automatically deal wih the issue of .inline_mod_check being last-child sometimes, even when it is forced to display: none;

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

I don't really think either is perfect, it works ok where it is now, but it would also work alright next to Quote. Good with how it is now: It's separate, out of the way and keeps quote easy to get to. Good with being lumped together with quote: Maybe easier to use with a phone for example. ( At least for me, mostly using my right hand with a phone I can just about reach around )

[Antechinus]

Thing is, if you put it in quickbuttons you can simplify .under_message. No need for the old floats. Just have one ul for the whole thing. Set it to flex. Then you can position any individual buttons left or right, in any order, just by tweaking the CSS.

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

Now, that does sound like it could be good - Though I don't really speak CSS.

[Antechinus]

CSS is easier than Finnish.