Mambo Open Source

[Kindred]

Unknown, did you mean turn OFF database driven sessions?

[[Unknown]]

Unknown, did you mean turn OFF database driven sessions?

Yes.  Integration will not work properly with them on, at this time.

-[Unknown]

[SVT242]

Orstio,

I wanted to bid you THANKS once again for your efforts! Unknown, I also applaud your efforts in seeing that this intergration between mambo and smf follows through!

On my website (LightningRodder.com), I have used phpBB as my forum software and have been mildy pleased with it. I was thinking of going to VBulletin (   ) due to the wide array of features it offers and stability it has proven to have. UNTIL... I found SMF! I have a local copy of SMF working on my test server with all of my live server's data and the transfer of over 2,000 articles was successful! SO, I am now confident in wanting to use SMF on my live site and ultimately kick phpBB to the curb!

I am amazed at the level of support and unmatched features SMF has to offer! I think MAMBO and SMF is a match made in heaven!!!

Keep up the good work Orstio and Unknown! You two guys are the best! 


-Chris
http://www.lightningrodder.com

[[Unknown]]

Thanks... and, as mentioned above, the two biggest issues are sessions (must be flatfile, not database.. I don't know that this can be fixed :/) and polls (solved for the next version of SMF.)

* [Unknown] votes for Dr. Zoidberg at the polls.

-[Unknown]

[Orstio]

Thanks.   

I think sessions can be fixed ( I don't know if they can be database driven, though).

Check your PMs, [Unknown].

[prozac_dk]

Is it possible to make some kind of sync between mambo and smf , since I have a old PNphpBB which I convert to phpBB and then to SMF, and the SMF is added to my mambo website with the Bridge....

Now my prob. is that the users are first added to mambo when they login the first time...

That's not good since I need to set new permissions and user levels for them, before they are allowed to use the mambo site and SMF.

Little Added on:
What are the Edit config option in the mambo backend -> components for

Cheers

Prozac_DK

[Kindred]

Ok...

So, If I set cookies to local or sub domain independent, then I can not log out of SMF at all... I can log out of Mambo (again with the Mambo specific logout, the combination logout is ineffective), but not SMF (at all).
I click on logout in SMF or the bridge component and it just returns to the screen with me still logged in.

The only way I seem to be able to log out of SMF is with databse driven sessions...

[Chris G.]

Okay.  First of all, I would like to congratulate Orstio on his sterling work.  Now, I have waded through this twenty-three-page topic in the hopes of finding what I'm looking for, and no dice.  I will, then, continue to ask my question:

My Mambo/SMF integration is proving, unfortunately, a bit disastrous.  I have followed the readme instructions to the letter, but the login and logout functions don't quite work properly:  I'm logged into SMF but not into Mambo.  I also can't log out, nor is the user menu showing up.

http://oceania.freeprohost.com/site

Any help would be greatly, greatly appreciated.  Thanks .

-Chris

[Orstio]

Got it!   

Thanks to Bruno Salzano for submitting some relevant code for Mambo login/logout database sessions, and thanks to Kindred for the use of his site for testing.   

I'll be uploading the v2.03 soon. 

[SVT242]

AWESOME!

[Claudek]

Good stuff there Orstio. Have been testing and seeing the best ways to integrate SMF into Mambo using your bridge right now.

BTW, I noticed "another" MAMBO/SMF integration project - http://pestilence.insert.gr/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=44&func=view&id=4&catid=9 which looks good. You doing work with that guy?

[Orstio]

50% of the SMF code has been ported to compatible Mambo code, now nearly all database calls are Mambo driven.
We are now working on the user integration of SMF and also moving the final parts of the remaining code to be ported.

Nope.  Not working with that at all.

I was working under the premise that SMF is not open source, and therefore no SMF code should be modified, beyond some theme changes.

[Claudek]

Had the same thought.

Think the guy means he is working on a bridge which ports smf to mambo. He says code, probably means the relevant db tables.

[Orstio]

No, I think he is changing SMF source code:

We are happy to announce that we have allready started coding an integraded version of SMF (Simple Machines) forums to mambo.
This component will not be just a simple bridge between Mambo and SMF but rather an integraded component such as simpleboard.
Time estimation varies (as time pressure of our real jobs varies) but we have allready made some progress with the main components of SMF.
It will once again utilize MamboJoe's "Community Builder" component for user handling issues (porting SMF user tables to "Community Builder").

Someone should probably inform him that while SMF is free, it is not open source.

[Claudek]

Sorry had meant to say component last message. Guy seems cluey enough, noticed this at http://www.mambers.com/showthread.php?t=18233

I am happy to annouce that from today i have started coding the first total SMF integration component for Mambo.
This won't be a bridge or a wrapper but a total mambo integraded SMF forum.
I have allready started changing the code of SMF and porting it to mambo (with the use of community builder component) and i am also waiting the answer of the SMF developers regarding licensing issues.
I will be posting more info regarding this component in the near future.
You might also check http://pestilence.insert.gr for updates on this.

So seems he knows about the licence bit.

[pestilence]

Hi everyone,
I saw your post just today, i am the one who is working on the SMF integration to Mambo, i emailed a few days ago SMF developers regarding the licensing issues but i got no reply. At the moment yes i have changed a big part of the code (actually the DB calls to Mambo compatible calls) but i have not released any part of the code to anyone, i was hoping i could get a reply regarding this issue from the developers but they did not.
Well if i don't find a solution its rather easy to simulate an integration of the forum with Mambo through just a few calls being brought by Mambo (user login in from Mambo and then updating also the SMF database, generally user functions of Mambo could easily get synced with the ones of SMF).
Till i finish i will be waiting for a reply...if i don't receive any...i will be moving to another project.
Also please notice that the license does not clarify if the code can or can't be changed to be more precise:

2. You may make Modifications to this Package or a derivative of it, and
distribute your Modifications in a form that is separate from the Package,
such as patches. The following restrictions apply to Modifications:
   a. A Modification must not alter or remove any copyright notices in
the Software or Package, generated or otherwise.
   b. When a Modification to the Package is released, a non-exclusive
royalty-free right is granted to Lewis Media to distribute the Modification
in future versions of the Package provided such versions remain available
under the terms of this Agreement in addition to any other license(s) of the
initial developer.
   c. Any Distribution of a Modified Package or derivative requires
express written consent from Lewis Media.

This clearly states that you can modify and distribute the code as a seperate patch as long as the copyright notices remain intact and you have written permission by Lewis Media.

[[Unknown]]

SMF is arguably open source, but you do need to get permission to redistribute - specifically because people do this, develop extra security holes, make SURE they never patch a single hole we find (if any), and then complete it all with blaming US for any security problems or bugs.

It's all bad mojo, and we hate it.  But hopefully it can be avoided - talk to Jeff Lewis; remember, though, that he's a very busy guy, so it may take him time to respond.

If it were made into a long series of changes (boardmod style or otherwise), there would be no problems at all - see the license for details.

-[Unknown]

[pestilence]

SMF is arguably open source, but you do need to get permission to redistribute - specifically because people do this, develop extra security holes, make SURE they never patch a single hole we find (if any), and then complete it all with blaming US for any security problems or bugs.

It's all bad mojo, and we hate it. But hopefully it can be avoided - talk to Jeff Lewis; remember, though, that he's a very busy guy, so it may take him time to respond.

If it were made into a long series of changes (boardmod style or otherwise), there would be no problems at all - see the license for details.

-[Unknown]

That's something i totally understand and i agree i know how it feels having complains regarding other peoples code. I have allready emailed Jeff Lewis and i do understand he is a bussy man (i am as well...) afterall i have not finished what i started so i will be waiting for an answer

[Claudek]

Cheers for your work and doing things the right way Pestilence. Will be interesting how you work turns out.

[np]

First I would like to thank Orstio for all of his work, you've done a wonderful job.  I just finished a mambo/smf site integration.  Overall I am very please with what I see.  For the most part everything seems to be working as it should.  I do have a few minor bugs that maybe some of you can help me out with.

The first issue is the polls.  It seems that my mambo polls are only visible to users who are logged on.  It still shows the "poll" heading, but no poll.  Once you login, everything is as it should be.  I'm almost positive I saw something on these boards related to polls, but I can't seem to find it again, if anyone can point me to that post that would be awesome.

The next issue is with the layout.  Some pages, and its never the same page, will go beyond the bottom of the mambo layout.   However, once you refresh the page, it fixes itself.  I'm not sure what is causing this problem, so if anyone as any ideas, please let me know.

I don't believe I am having any trouble with registration/login/logout, but if any of  you would like to make some test runs you are more then welcome.

The site can be found here: http://www.uhlpost.com [nofollow]

Thanks again for all of your work Orstio.

NP