Introducing SMF 2.0

[Harro]

Really depends on the amount of bugs that are found, how easy they are to fix and how much time the developers have to work on it

[Gary]

Yeah, it does depend, 1.0 had six betas before going RC, and 1.1 had four.

-ALM

[HecKel]

Hi!

I only saw this thread now..., but I have one question. In SMF 2.0 moderators can moderate on childboards? Look at this example if you don't understand me:

- Board X (Moderator Xpto)
- - Child Board Y (Moderator XYZ)

In SMF 1.2, the Moderator Xpto don't have moderation permissions on Child Board Y, but this board is under his own board..., this don't make any sense, he should can moderate there.

I hope this will be possible on SMF 2.0.

HecKel

[wolfcry]

Hey all. Wonderful to see that Version 2 is finally being born 

I was wondering though, is it possible to make it so it retains your current modifications without over-writing them during upgrades with this one?

For me (as I love keeping myself upgraded with SMF) it is very bothersome to keep re-doing modifications and personal changes to the new upgrade each and every time I upgrade.

I think this could be done through an "upgrade" link through the Admin section so if an admin wants to check for the latest edition all they do is click that link and it notifies and properly installs all necessary paths without overwriting the customized templates and / or removing any mods that are active. Not only will this be a huge improvement of having to rewrite code just to do an upgrade, but it will help all SMF owners stay upgraded alot easier.

[metallica48423]

as said in one of the developer blogs.

The changes in 2.0 are so extensive that it all but guarantees that *Nearly all mods will break* in 2.0.

So you will need to redo your mods, yes.

[青山 素子]

I was wondering though, is it possible to make it so it retains your current modifications without over-writing them during upgrades with this one?

For me (as I love keeping myself upgraded with SMF) it is very bothersome to keep re-doing modifications and personal changes to the new upgrade each and every time I upgrade.

Upgrades within a series (1.1 to 1.1.1 to 1.1.2) can be done via packages, so you won't need to worry about mods being lost, but upgrades between series (1.0 to 1.1 to 2.0) require overwriting files because of the huge changes made between them. Likewise, non-final upgrades (RC1 to RC2) are not done with packages either.

[Joshua Dickerson]

I was wondering though, is it possible to make it so it retains your current modifications without over-writing them during upgrades with this one?

For me (as I love keeping myself upgraded with SMF) it is very bothersome to keep re-doing modifications and personal changes to the new upgrade each and every time I upgrade.

Upgrades within a series (1.1 to 1.1.1 to 1.1.2) can be done via packages, so you won't need to worry about mods being lost, but upgrades between series (1.0 to 1.1 to 2.0) require overwriting files because of the huge changes made between them. Likewise, non-final upgrades (RC1 to RC2) are not done with packages either.

They can all be done with packages. Whether or not they are released that way is a different story.

[Tristan Perry]

Those two replies come together to become pretty confusing Lol, sorry! So to check - what you're both saying is that whilst SMF is capable of releasing any changes via the package manager, with the number of changes made between serieses, it's impractical to do so (because the modification file would be too large)?

[Joshua Dickerson]

Yeah, it is possible to do it. You could do it by replacing, removing, and adding new files. Then it would have to remove all of the other mod actions and run some code and do database actions. It would be a pretty big customization. It would be just as easy to download the upgrader.

[codenaught]

Hi!

I only saw this thread now..., but I have one question. In SMF 2.0 moderators can moderate on childboards? Look at this example if you don't understand me:

- Board X (Moderator Xpto)
- - Child Board Y (Moderator XYZ)

In SMF 1.2, the Moderator Xpto don't have moderation permissions on Child Board Y, but this board is under his own board..., this don't make any sense, he should can moderate there.

I hope this will be possible on SMF 2.0.

HecKel

Couldn't you just assign the member to be a moderator of each the child boards?

[HecKel]

yes, I can do that, but if one member is moderator of one board, why he can't moderate on his own child boards?

I think that is more logic, and easier.

HecKel

[codenaught]

yes, I can do that, but if one member is moderator of one board, why he can't moderate on his own child boards?

I think that is more logic, and easier.

HecKel

The member can as long as you assign them a moderator of the child boards as well. I think there would be times where the admin would only want a member to moderate the parent board, for example, maybe someone here would be good at moderating "General English Support" but knows nothing about Converters nor "Performance and Server Configuration." I suppose some kind of option could be added to automatically apply moderators of parent boards to be moderators of the parent's child boards or it could be set per board basis, but if you don't have say 100 child boards, it doesn't seem like such a problem adding the moderators manually.

[cadu]

Can we get a "beta" 2.0 version... Maybe we can help to find possible bugs...

[L.G.S]

Won't happen unless you're Charter ^^

[青山 素子]

A beta will be released eventually, first to charter members, then later to the general public. Be patient please.

[joomla]

Can we get a "beta" 2.0 version... Maybe we can help to find possible bugs...

You will... when the Beta is out... it's only Alpha at the moment

[Defiant]

Just out of interest has the alpha had alot of problems so far ?

[Harro]

You can see all the problems and bugs on this forum

[Daniel15]

Just out of interest has the alpha had alot of problems so far ?

There's quite a few bugs at the moment (hence the "Alpha"), but we're working on fixing them

as said in one of the developer blogs.

The changes in 2.0 are so extensive that it all but guarantees that *Nearly all mods will break* in 2.0.

So you will need to redo your mods, yes.

Yeah, definitely... Heaps has changed .
However, it shouldn't be too hard to update your mods - I'm in the process of updating SMFShop to support SMF 2.0, and it's not that big of a task (just very repetitive )

[cadu]

How do I became a Charter Member?

I've a test Forum base. I truely may help.