SMF 2.0 Beta 3 Public Released!

[青山 素子]

"When it's ready."

[metallica48423]

As already mentioned, no.

I am sure we will have another beta and at least a couple of release candidates prior to a final release.

Getting the bugs fixed and things tweaked are the biggest concerns right now.  We are generally not a group to put out a shoddy software release to meet a rollout date.  Generally when the developers feel the software is ready for production sites to begin using, as with most softwares, is when we will release final and begin looking forward at the next version

[babylon]

a few huh...
ok that sure indicates it will take a long time....,atleast i know what time period were looking at..
thank you.

[青山 素子]

ok that sure indicates it will take a long time....,atleast i know what time period were looking at..
thank you.

I believe Grudge (one of the developers) said the project has failed if the final isn't out by the end of the year.

[babylon]

thats 8 looooooooooooooooooooooooooong months

[metallica48423]

There will be other releases than just final though.

But yes... as Motoko-chan stated, the goal is years end

[babylon]

mmm ok, i understand the importance of betatesters but when the goal is end year...,isnt it a bit to much publishing the 2.0 as an "available download" to the public ?

[青山 素子]

mmm ok, i understand the importance of betatesters but when the goal is end year...,isnt it a bit to much publishing the 2.0 as an "available download" to the public ?

I don't think it was said very well. We would certainly like to get it out sooner rather than later. The release date will depend on how many and what kind of bugs are found. If we don't have many past the current beta, the release will come faster. If we somehow get a tricky bug or several big bugs reported, the release will probably be a bit slower.

[metallica48423]

The betatesters are actually the third level of testing of the beta.

Firstly, the admins (developers, mostly) test things here with each release as well as on their own development boards.  They submit changes/bugfixes to the SVN server.
Secondly, some of the team members test the versions, often on their own sites/test boards.  When they find bugs, they submit them to the bug tracker.
Thirdly, the beta testers test things in depth.  They submit the bugs to the bug tracker.
Fourth, the charter members get the beta.  They report bugs to the team/beta testers for testing, and they report to the bug tracker.
Lastly, the public gets the beta version.  They report bugs to the team/beta testers for testing, and they report to the bug tracker.

In my view, it is a good thing to allow a public beta at some point as you get a wider cross section of configurations and experiences, and it gives you the ability to take that feedback to tweak and bugfix things that might have otherwise been missed.

This is why we don't reccommend using the beta version in production, it hasn't made it fully through each of the primary testing phases.  It is good for people other than the team to be able to try things out and give their feedback.

This is a common practice many places, really.  Many groups release their unstable versions to take advantage of that filter.

Granted, it does create a support scenario that isn't as tight as it usually is, but that changes as each member of the community and the support team acclimate to the changes.

Got to love the software development cycle

In addition, it gives others such as mod and theme developers more time to acclimate to the change as well which means faster roll out of modifications and themes.

In the end, it is simply to help us put out a more solid product.  It is a win-win-win situation

[babylon]

that was well explained..
but thats some path to follow..
but the ones with lesser knowledge maybe gets a wrong idea when the 2.0 shows so openly.
even with my imagination i would assume a quick release seeing it like this..
but never like...end of this year...

[redone]

wow Thats really great
but i wanna ask that where from we can download the Themes of SMF 2.0 Beta 3

You would have to look on a theme by theme basis. I see they are being updated by authors as time goes by. You can see some 2.0 themes here smfthemes.net

The .net domain is used just for 2.0 and its themes.

[Eliana Tamerin]

Dziner Studio has their themes converted to 2.0 as well. And they have some pretty awesome designs.

[Antechinus]

ok that sure indicates it will take a long time....,atleast i know what time period were looking at..
thank you.

I believe Grudge (one of the developers) said the project has failed if the final isn't out by the end of the year.

Funny you should mention that. I know nothing about software development and I've seen people bouncing up and down for a final release since I started using SMF in mid-November 2007. Just looking at the progress through beta I was thinking to myself that I'd just have to be patient and it'd be sorted by the end of the year.
This time next year I'll be running SMF 2 final integrated with TP v1.0.
In the meantime the existing software is great, and the fact that it's open source has meant that I've learnt heaps.
Cool. Great going, team.

[riker]

When's it final, When's it final, When's it final, When's it final, When's it final LOL.  SMF should have kept the project to themselves till later 

[Yellowrose]

Well after some server difficulties I just tonight got this installed on a test board.

Great job guys.

The moderation feature is something I really need for my sites and I love the other new featurs this version is going to give us. Now just have wait for Bloc to catch up with TP for SMF 2.0 and I'll be in my glory.

[perplexed]

Dziner Studio has their themes converted to 2.0 as well. And they have some pretty awesome designs.

they do have some nice themes

[Antechinus]

Check out their Theme Submissions sub-forum too. There's some modified versions in there for download as well as the official download section.

[Chopper]

Hi, i have installed SMF 2.0 beta and everything has installed ok. One problem, however, when i attempt to upload TinyPortal v1.0.5 beta 1 i get the following error:

Could not upload package, please check directory permissions!

I have already changed the packages directory to 777 but still it will not upload?

[Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen]

Hi, i have installed SMF 2.0 beta and everything has installed ok. One problem, however, when i attempt to upload TinyPortal v1.0.5 beta 1 i get the following error:

First off: http://www.tinyportal.net/index.php?topic=22559.100

TP will be avaible for smf 2.0???

and the TP team need mucho time for the modification??

thx

That will not happen for some time and no time frame will be set for that.

[Chopper]

I also have a test forum set up which is SMF 1.1.4 and i get the exact same problem yet other mods can be apllied when attempted?