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can I try it for a new website - with charter membership please

Started by phil@sensibleweb.co.uk, March 27, 2008, 02:26:39 PM

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phil@sensibleweb.co.uk

Just setting up a new golfclub website and are going to add a forum, it will not be heavily used at first as they have never had one and rather than V1 and needing a board that will allow post moderation before they appear, thought 'is V2 in Beta good enough to use with the support of a charter membership'.

If no I will need to use Vbulletin or the like as after 4 days waiting for help on a forum with phpbb, I am going to ditch it, even offering to pay for help didnt work as the support staff I asked said that the CAPCHA area that was not working was not there speciality. The only post back I got was from someone with the same problem!!

If it is worth a go, will the beta be upgradable to the final release please?

Oh and is there any bolt on mod to email html Newsletters from the database please?

Regards
Phil

SlammedDime

To answer some questions:
You don't need a charter membership to receive support for 2.0 since it is a public release now.  You will be entitled to priority support however (we take care of you before the general public, and you have access to the help desk ticket system, so if you have problems with the software itself (not mods or modifications), we can help you that way too)

Will the beta be upgradeable, yes.
Can you email newsletters? yes, its a default feature of SMF.
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Upgradeable, but not via patches like mods.  Those are only available after final release.

Until then to upgrade to the new version you need to replace your files and then run the upgrade script.

phil@sensibleweb.co.uk

Thanks for such quick replies.
Could I just ask as I signed up in a hurry please:
1. The sign up seemed to auto use my email address as my user name in the forum when I made my first post. I had to hurriedly change my profile - I honestly did not think at signup that I had authorised my email to be so public.
Can this be changed as a default not to  include a new registrants email as their username and be public please?
2. You mention it will email the database but is that with an html newsletter and is their a facility to 'Sign up to Newsletter' within it please?

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Phil

karlbenson

I've never seen it use the email address as a membername.

testingtimes

I just registered again as 'testingtimes' and replied as that rather than 'IfOnly' and hopefully it will show my user name and not full email address.

Can anyone help me with the second part of my question please:

Is it an html newsletter that the board can send and is there a facility or workaround for a 'Signup to Newsletter' I could not see it in the features. Even  an 'I agree to receive newsletters or mailings' tickbox on registration would be good.

Thanks
Phil

testingtimes

Well it did not use my email address, I must have placed that as user name last time.
However I did not tick the box to 'Allow others to email me' but my email address is public with this new registration. This is not good, is there a default to make the email address not visible in the member profile. It is a pain to get new members to have to go in and hide it afterwards.

Regards
Phil

SlammedDime

I believe the hide email address is an existing bug in 2.0.  As for the newsletter, yes, it can be HTML, but no, there is no sign up.  Users can, however, untick a checkbox in their profile to allow emails from admins.  That way, if you send one out, they won't get it, unless you override it in the newsletter config.
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phil@sensibleweb.co.uk

It is a pretty serious bug do you know when it is going to be fixed please, cant really have all our members email addresses being made public but need V2 as posts must be approved before showing.

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Phil

Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen

Quote from: IfOnly on March 29, 2008, 12:03:04 PM
It is a pretty serious bug do you know when it is going to be fixed please, cant really have all our members email addresses being made public but need V2 as posts must be approved before showing.

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Phil
Your email address is not really showing to the whole world. Only to you. I do not see it in either IfOnly or testingtimes.. No e-mail -button, no address. And even in the profile it says Email:  hidden.
Also neither of those show your e-mail as your username....
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There is also a feature by default that allows you to turn off guest browsing of the forum and all it's features if you are really worried about privacy. Welcome to the site btw; its good to have you here. :)

testingtimes

Thanks very much for following this up.
The reason my email addresses are hidden now is that very soon I changed the setting to hidden in my profile. In fact they do not show to me either it just says 'hidden'

However I can confirm it is a bug in registration:
Bug #1858: [Registration] Allow users to email option is incorrect
http://dev.simplemachines.org/mantis/view.php?id=1858

It seems like a developer has fixed it but no files or code seem available, so I guess its either change the text for the reverse at present or wait for Beta4 with the fix in:
http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=231568.msg1491412#msg1491412

I would prefer to be working from the fixed files though, otherwise problems might occur after an upgrade.

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Phil

Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen

Quote from: testingtimes on April 02, 2008, 02:13:00 AM
However I can confirm it is a bug in registration:
Bug #1858: [Registration] Allow users to email option is incorrect
http://dev.simplemachines.org/mantis/view.php?id=1858
Ok, I was actually unaware of this, and was just remembering how the things worked before. :) Sorry about that.
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testingtimes

No problem, at least you were good enough to take the time and trouble to try and help me :)

rsw686

Quote from: IfOnly on March 29, 2008, 12:03:04 PM
It is a pretty serious bug do you know when it is going to be fixed please, cant really have all our members email addresses being made public but need V2 as posts must be approved before showing.

Regards
Phil

All you need to do is modify the language string. In SMF 1.1.4 it says "Hide email address from public?" where as with SMF 2.0 it states "Allow users to email you?". Looks like the text was changed without the code behind it.

So all you need to do is change Themes\default\languages\index.english.php line 346

$txt['allow_user_email'] = 'Allow users to email you?';

When the Beta 4 is released it will replace all the files anyway so it won't matter.
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I looked this up:

in /Sources/Register.php:

find this code:

elseif (!empty($_POST['bday1']) && !empty($_POST['bday2']))
$_POST['birthdate'] = sprintf('%04d-%02d-%02d', empty($_POST['bday3']) ? 0 : (int) $_POST['bday3'], (int) $_POST['bday1'], (int) $_POST['bday2']);


Add after it:

// By default assume email is hidden, only show it if we tell it to.
$_POST['hide_email'] = !empty($_POST['show_email']) ? 0 : 1;


Then, in /Themes/themename/Register.template.php

find:
<label for="hide_email"><input type="checkbox" name="hide_email" id="hide_email" class="check" /> ', $txt['allow_user_email'], '</label>


replace with:
<label for="allow_email"><input type="checkbox" name="allow_email" id="allow_email" class="check" /> ', $txt['allow_user_email'], '</label>
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testingtimes

Thanks for that, if I need to use 2.0 Beta 3, I will surely make those changes before opening the new forum.
I am still concerned that as this will be for a busy club, the brand new board on a brand new website will take off quite fast and there still seem a lots of bugs/problem being reported in the support forum (not complaining, that why it is beta and its expected), - many of them with fixes though.
Therefore if I join as a Chatered member is there a Chartered Beta 4 available that will incorporate most of these fixes to date. I did note there was a Chartered Beta 3 before it was released to the public.

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Phil

metallica48423

currently the charter members have the same version the public does, but when there is a release, they'll probably get it in advance of what the public does
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