Moderator and Administrator Comment Tags

[kassit]

Thanks all
everything is ok

But there are some problem :

1 : when administrator adds a tag, normal user can edit that post and remove the tag.
even the tag will be remove just when normal user edit the post.

2 : you can't understand which moderator has added this tag. simply i can write a wrong name in tag as description

3 : a moderator can delete a tag that has been inserted by administrator.

4 : it was better to add new tags by administrator and you were not forced to use just 3 tags

are you going to solve this problems ?

[Kindred]

yes yes and yes...   so what?   The mod never claims to be anything other than it is.

"fixing" item 1 would be difficult at best.
item 2 could be updated, but if you can't trust your mods and admins, why are they mods and admins?
item 3, see item 1 and 2.

[Arantor]

Speaking as the original author of this mod:

These aren't problems, not really, and you don't need a technical solution to solve a user stupidity problem.

1. Don't edit their post, then. Make a new one where the user can't edit it. This has been said before, more than once, even in the last page or so.

2 & 3. As Kindred said. If they can't be trusted, demote them. The more complex you make something to make it more idiot proof, a better idiot comes along.

[kassit]

Dear Arantor

tagging is always used to preventing of making new post. by posting new one, you don't need a tagging system.
It's not so logical to say : Just don't do that

It's not the matter that moderators are trusted or not. A big website may have a lot of experts and moderators.
All moderators are tagging posts and Administrator couldn't ask all of them to know which one has tagged this post.
Also i couldn't say them to always write their name. It's like saying members to write their name where posting.

Dear Kindred

Item 1 is not so hard as you said.
You can just trying to parse the content of a post before showing it. if there is a tag that the current user has not permission to access it, temporarily remove it from edit area and store it in the hidden field. then it will be post to server when saving and you can add it again.

That simple

[Kindred]

Lol...  That simple??

You are funny...  So, rewrite the entire post display function because you can not trust you mod staff?no offense, but if it is so simple, then go ahead and do it yourself?  The mod author has already indicated no....

[Arantor]

tagging is always used to preventing of making new post. by posting new one, you don't need a tagging system.
It's not so logical to say : Just don't do that

How is it not logical to say "Just don't do that." Again, if you don't trust your moderators, don't make them moderators!

Also i couldn't say them to always write their name. It's like saying members to write their name where posting.

That's why you make them write a new post which will have their name against it. Like every member's post does! It's automatic.

You can just trying to parse the content of a post before showing it. if there is a tag that the current user has not permission to access it, temporarily remove it from edit area and store it in the hidden field. then it will be post to server when saving and you can add it again.

Really, uh huh. So let me get this straight, you want to rewrite the single largest, single slowest, single most complex part of SMF, just because you can't manage your moderators effectively.

[kassit]

Dear Arantor and Kindred

I don't understand why you are challenging me just for suggesting a solution.
Ok, i forbear, do what you like.

i had changed that myself in my local system so easily and will be upload so soon in our online forum.
i just thought you may want to develop your mod but seems i was wrong.

Good Luck

[Arantor]

I'm challenging you because I wrote this mod originally and am only too aware of how complex the suggestion you're proposing is, not to mention how much slower it will make the forum, assuming it's done properly (since there are so many ways to affect what you're talking about, that you probably aren't even aware of)

[kassit]

I had changed it myself and will publish it after some necessary changes.

I don't know how did you understand that i'm not aware of things that you mentioned but it's not so important.
I will send you changes although you behave so bad.
then you can see that things are so easier than what you think sometimes.

Don't attack others just because you think they don't know. Maybe you don't know.

End of my participation

[Arantor]

I didn't mean to come out so aggressively, and for that I'm sorry.

But parse_bbc is the single most complex function in SMF, making changes to it is not a trivial process because of all the different times, different ways, different routes to which it can be called, and any change to it will invariably have consequences that you won't be aware of. I'm not saying that I would necessarily be aware of all of them, but having worked with the SMF code virtually full time for the last 18 months or so, I'm well aware of how fragile it can be at times. This is one of those times.

It's not just called with posts, it's called for signatures, it's called for entries in the moderation centre, it's called for newsletters, the news function, and myriad other places, so for which there won't necessarily be an 'owner' of the content to check against, and checking against the current user's id (as many people seem to think will solve the problem) won't do it either, unless you check it at creation time, though that's not always possible either.

[geoffers]

I love this mod, have always found it really useful and like it just the way it is, so many thanks

Will it be updated for RC 5 ?

[Kindred]

works fine for me on RC5 already....   just use the emulate function down at the bottom of the package manager screen

[geoffers]

 

works fine for me on RC5 already....   just use the emulate function down at the bottom of the package manager screen

D'oh! - missed that - many thanks

[Cal O'Shaw]

Will this excellent MOD be updated formally to 2.0?

Grazie,

Cal

[Cal O'Shaw]

Hello,

I tried to use Kindred's suggestions to edit the (theme)/css/index.css to make the comments stand out a bit more.

Unfortunately, I've tried to edit the file manually and had no success.

Any suggestions would be most welcome!

Grazie,

Cal

[Siirist]

Will this excellent MOD be updated formally to 2.0?

Grazie,

Cal

Hi, 

Same question.
Tried to parse, but not compatible. 
Update for ver 2.0 Final "soon"? 

Thanks,
Cloud 

[Jessica.]

this works perfectly in 2.0! thanks ^_^

[Siirist]

this works perfectly in 2.0! thanks ^_^

Wait What???!!!

It won't parse for SMF ver 2.0 Final,
I downloaded any way and tried install and got the attached screen shot.

Cloud

[Kindred]

Use the "advanced" link at the bottom of the packages list....    set it to a version which this does work for (e.g. 2.0 RC3)

[Siirist]

Use the "advanced" link at the bottom of the packages list....    set it to a version which this does work for (e.g. 2.0 RC3)

Hi Kindred, 

I went to the package manager,
went to bottom right of page,
clicked on advanced, 2.0 was default,
clicked on apply.
No "Install Mod" present.
Tried to Upload again.
Got message "File exists, Delete before uploading",
deleted file.
Uploaded file,
got
"The file is either corrupted or is incompatible with this version of SMF"

I attached screen shots

Thanks,
Cloud

UPDATE: Forgot the screen shots here they are