I do not think i will support this community any longer.

[Arantor]

This thread makes me LOL....

I only wish I felt like laughing.

[Gargoyle]

Sorry Arantor but people complaining about the release of free software I find amusing. It's like crying that the 5 dollar bill you found belonged to someone else. Expecting free and appreciating free are 2 vastly different concepts and to me at least the OP completely fails to understand that and wishes to complain.

Reminds me of my 6 year old when she doesn't get her way.. So I LOL'd... Meant no disrespect to the team future, past, or present.

[Arantor]

Oh, I know what you mean. I just got so annoyed at the people who expected and even got upset when they didn't get their question answered quickly enough. Made me just ignore them.

[Gargoyle]

Exactly my point...

[stog]

thx everyone past, present, returned, away on holiday, out to lunch, returned rejuvenated, etc  for your time and efforts --wonderful software and support -and allied sites too...and good luck as with what is and always will be evolution - with the occasional revolution, devolution and ultimately solution -- which then resolves to more evolution etc

********one big problem though is rolling and scrolling on this site which is jagged and difficult - i see that the load times recorded for this page are ok (at bottom of page) but even posting now 12 noon, i am getting very slow here in UK, using firefox and osx on a mac mini with a fairly fast internet connection. is this perhaps still because of problems with rc1/2/3....?

other busy sites using 1.1.11  including our own are fine. i realise that there is much info here on the smf servers including many d'loads, but the latency and lag when scrolling has been very marked these past months*****

that said thxall and hang in there all and hope to see many return too .. much love x

[Kindred]

I think it must be something in the server-path between you and smf...   because there is no lag for me on this, or any other RC site...

[kat]

I'm in England and it's flying, for me.


Try a tracert or ping.

[青山 素子]

I think ICMP inside the firewall is blocked, but for me I'm seeing about 66ms to the edge router in front of the servers. My route is going through Level3 and MZIMA/PacketExchange.

[ianus]

one big problem though is rolling and scrolling on this site which is jagged and difficult - i see that the load times recorded for this page are ok (at bottom of page)

I have noticed this behaviour since one month and wonder why nobody has posted about.
So I assume that something went wrong only with my rig.
Pageload, postin, ... is fast but scrolling is a pain.
I have turned of images meanwhile, which solve the problem.
(Using FF 3.6)

Additionally this is the only SMF page which is scrolling slowly. Other Websites running SMF or even other parts of this board, like Customisation, Manual, etc are working as fast as ever.

[Pegasys]

Meanwhile... back on topic...


I too share the concern for future interest & support for SMF. But this is in no way to be mis-interpreted as a lack of respect or appreciation to those who develop and support this wonderful FREE product.

For many years now, I too have developed free material that is openly available to a large and dedicated community of users. I know how it feels when someone comes along and "holds you to account" for something they get for the mere price of the time it takes to download it.


But I do hope it is realized that a large percentage of the members here are admins/owners/operators  of existing forum-based  websites. And as such, they have on-line communities of their own that they must account to. Problems here at the Mother Site trickle downhill and have a far more reaching effect than might be realized.


Perspective Check: Okay, I do realize that the vast majority of SMF users probably run a specific 1.1.x version day in and day out and never have issues or come here for support.. or with dreams and hopes of finding new mods or themes. But that fact directly contradicts my current rant... so we'll just conveniently ignore it.


Unfortunately, as an admin of a site, I personally couldn't give a small rodent's buttocks about the internal issues, grievances & ego conflicts between the development/support staff members.  I am beholding to a community of my own and I must have confidence in the forum software that the community relies upon to interact with each other.

But with the once-promising new version stuck in beta for,  what?   3+ years?   ... coupled with the internal fracturing, waning support  and apparent interest... I have to be deeply concerned about the future viability of SMF forum software.

I can not afford to blindly dismiss it with a "Oh, they'll work it out and all will be swell!!" optimistic attitude. I know from experience that the things we are blindly optimistic about are usually the ones that come up from behind and take a chunk out of your rump.   


* In years past, I was often shocked at how quickly I would get a response to a support question posted here. Now, unfortunately... I am routinely shocked at not receiving a response at all...  or coming across numerous topics while searching for a solution where other members also asked for help and no one ever replied. I might expect that at a fringe, 3rd party support site for certain mods or themes... but not here at the Mother Site.


I truly hope the ramifications of allowing interest to wane for a such a popular and widely used product as SMF are fully understood by those who have the ability to control it.  Just as the members of the community I shepherd look up to me to keep it fresh and running smoothly, we admins here look up to you to do the same and keep making us look good to our flocks. 


And with that, I will now step off of my soap box and wait to incur the wrath of those with differing opinions.

But I would like to close with the statement that I feel SMF remains the best product of its type.  I fervently hope & pray that it will get back on track & remain a staple to admins of forum based websites... and that it also continues to be something that those who have developed and supported it will continue to enjoy their participation & take pride in the accomplishment.

[kat]

... waning support...

We try so hard... 

[Pegasys]

We try so hard... 

With a post count like yours,  my comment does indeed sound unjustly harsh.  I stand humbly reproached. 


All of your efforts have not gone in vain... or unappreciated!!

[kat]

Thankyou!


It appears, though, that I'm considered a "jerk", though, in some quarters.


I may be on the way out, sadly...

[Pegasys]

Thankyou!


It appears, though, that I'm considered a "jerk", though, in some quarters.


I may be on the way out, sadly...

With a post count here as low as mine, I obviously don't have enough exposure to have any opinion on that.

But you are responsive. I'll give you that!! 

[kat]

Well, I do try...

[Pegasys]

Well, I do try...

Perhaps... "Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here..." is not the best slogan for a Tech Support Specialist.


Just throwing that out there...   

[kat]

After the conversation I've just had, it's kinda appropriate, sadly. 

[Kindred]

[kat]

We're working on it...

[di3f00l]

Haven't you noticed a drastic decrease in ( good ) themes and mods ?

Haven't you noticed the drastic number of ( good ) themes and mods that are already out?