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Modificaciones (Mods) / Re: Steam login en SFM? Posible?
« Last post by Gluz on Today at 06:11:21 PM »
No había visto que en ese estaba incluido, sabía que tenía muchas redes sociales, pero no que incluía Steam.

Con ese MOD se debe crear cuenta de developer y crear aplicaciones en algunas plataformas para que se pueda usar para registrarse e ingresar al foro, y con Steam no se si sea el caso, pero necesita al menos registrarse en OneAll para obtener el un identificador para usar el servicio.
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Feature Requests / Re: Moving to something like Handlebars (after 2.1)
« Last post by Arantor on Today at 06:04:22 PM »
Instead of talking in hypotheticals, let's talk in actuals.

I have a fork of SMF. Anyone who cared to look this up on GitHub would see this. This is fine, it has a very different purpose to SMF and has absolutely no plans to go in any way mainstream.

Pretty much the first major thing we did was start to tear out the template system as it currently is.

Why? Because the majority of people aren't PHP people. They're people who come from Node land, and are used to Handlebars templates. They even did a fair amount of the conversions away from PHP to Handlebars - and this is not perfect right now, but the bulk of it is done.

It means we simplify all the logic around templates as far as users are concerned. Modding gets simpler, because you can target the mod code so much more easily should you want to, because instead of navigating around the PHP syntax, you can just handle the HTML itself - which would have solved a lot of the 2.0.14 login problem without resorting to buffer manipulations had it been available.

We can and do reuse code without having to remember which template it's in and whether it's already been loaded. We're also going to refactor all the language stuff away so that's also easier to use.

And you know what helped? I work with Handlebars at work when I write Moodle stuff. You make the argument that it's all just PHP - but honestly, the minute you start intermixing JavaScript behaviours with it, you really want to simplify the logic. Templates with a real template engine help with that - and I got to reuse what I'd learned about writing templates for Moodle in my own stuff.

Rigidly sticking to the mindset of 'what we have is good enough' is a guarantee for stagnation. It *may* be true that what you have is best, but every argument I've seen here is deflection.

Why not actually *try* it? Why not actually play with a system that does templating this way and get a feel for how well it works or doesn't work, rather than writing it off based on hypothetical costs?

Yes, the conversion is a cost. It's also largely a one time cost you pay whenever the version after 2.1 is done, if it's done for that (which I'd recommend)

Your repeated arguments about barrier to entry are logical fallacies for one, elitist and arrogant for two, and for a third, I think you misunderstand the user base.

The average SMF admin isn't you. They're not developers. Scraping by on HTML is possibly the upper edge of the average admin's skill set. Making them jump through 1.5 languages (HTML/Handlebars) is definitely nicer than juggling PHP/HTML, and the reality is that you actually don't have to lose any flexibility if you don't want to.
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Español (Spanish) / Re: Como arreglo los acentos y Ñ deformes?
« Last post by Gluz on Today at 05:59:16 PM »
Ese es el archivo SSI de SMF, lo que yo pregunto es ¿cómo lo usas para que muestre lo que necesitas?
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SMF 2.0.x Support / Re: Corruption on Alerts drop down
« Last post by faliro on Today at 05:53:51 PM »
Thanks Kindred. I have no idea how to use that or what i am looking for.

I did however click on tools after right clicking and saw this. Is this the kind of stuff you mean?

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[root@forum ~]# dig MX ultravan.com       
; <<>> DiG 9.8.2rc1-RedHat-9.8.2-0.62.rc1.el6_9.4 <<>> MX ultravan.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 39441
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ultravan.com.                  IN      MX
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ultravan.com.           1799    IN      SOA       dns1.name-services.com. dns1.name-services.com.ultravan.com. 1461638364 172800 900 1814400 3600

;; Query time: 82 msec
;; SERVER: 2001:4860:4860::8844#53(2001:4860:4860::8844)
;; WHEN: Tue Oct 17 05:45:58 2017
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 108

confirmed - his domain name isn't configured to receive emails so that makes me think that he is not given access to local email services.

if he wants to receive mail via his domain name then he has to ask his host to configure his DNS settings for their email server.
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Feature Requests / Re: Moving to something like Handlebars (after 2.1)
« Last post by Kindred on Today at 05:42:56 PM »
 I think that your points were actually addressed you just don't happen to agree with the statements they made to address them. Both Arantor and Suki have valid points about a core system and  a templating system being an improvement and it's not an issue of using a system for the sake of having a system but  as pointed out using a system as a new core and being able to build around it and take the bits you need from it without having to rebuild from scratch
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SMF 2.0.x Support / Re: Error messages when editing posts
« Last post by Kindred on Today at 05:38:01 PM »
 I suspect the post anonymously mod is interfering with poster ids
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Most hosts have the php sendmail component
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SMF 2.0.x Support / Re: The basics.. setting up an email system for members
« Last post by a10 on Today at 05:28:30 PM »
a10, from what I can tell, his server doesn't have a local mail server so php cannot send the emails.

my only confusion is how his members register because that is done via email to send the activation links ... perhaps he registers them himself or guests can post ?

Indeed there are mysteries. Doesn't all 'normal' hosts provide php email? And the members activation... let's see if the op can provide detailed info how the forum is run, and investigate the host's email capabilities (or lack thereof).
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Feature Requests / Re: Moving to something like Handlebars (after 2.1)
« Last post by Gwenwyfar on Today at 05:15:45 PM »
The whole problem is that these "advantages" are not really true advantages and some are even disadvantages. Using a templating engine does not come without consequences.

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Besides, I can guarantee you that if SMF choses to re-do the current template system it will end up pretty similar to current already available ones.
If it gets too similar it will just have the same problems, except you also have to build it. From that standpoint, you are right that it is not worth it to build one, if it ends up being just as bad.

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So no, a template engine is not going to be used for the sake of using it or because lots of other people uses it, those are perks that come with it but aren't the main points behind it.
What is the main point, then? We're just going in circles here, my main points are still there and still haven't been addressed, just avoided.
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