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The future of SMF

Started by Norv, February 24, 2012, 07:49:09 AM

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Herman's Mixen

it was ment as sacasm :D

i know and be long enough around :P
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Masterd

Quote from: ‽ on August 15, 2014, 07:12:08 PM
Hell, if the team wanted to pay me, I could find it in my heart to work on things...

Too bad that the best things in life are always free.

Deaks

Quote from: Masterd on August 16, 2014, 07:31:42 AM

Too bad that the best things in life are always free.

Not always

青山 素子

Quote from: Herman's Mixen on August 15, 2014, 07:02:57 PM
if you wanna speed up the development, you can pay for the charter membership so the team can pay the developers for a full force development :D

It would need a lot of memberships if you're thinking about paying full time salaries.
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Herman's Mixen

What did i say after that :P

Quote from: Herman's Mixen on August 15, 2014, 07:02:57 PM
and probally we need more charter members ;)
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SaltedWeb

I was a charter I guess near ten years ago when I think the 2nd beta was running to far to remember, I even forgot about it being there. Might be prudent advertise that Charter and Donation better.
I mean really who would not pay $49.95 a year for this amazing software and knowing it will help.
I just paid my hosting bill but will donate in the next two week.
Maybe get a donation thread going and get people to match it.
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Antes

To clear something, we are not going to pay some developers to fix bugs/write features for us. If you think or get the idea of "donations will speed up development" this is false. Do not think that way, SMF is a free software and all team members are volunteer to do things around, none gets paid.

Herman's Mixen

nah just made a statement, how it normally goes when use paid services... and ofcourse we see still people trying too push... free services... :D

SMF = simple Be Free ;)
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Arantor

Payment is a huge motivation however and setting up some kind of bounty program might be an idea for consideration.
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SaltedWeb

Quote from: Antes on August 16, 2014, 08:19:13 PM
To clear something, we are not going to pay some developers to fix bugs/write features for us. If you think or get the idea of "donations will speed up development" this is false. Do not think that way, SMF is a free software and all team members are volunteer to do things around, none gets paid.

Just to clear up my comment, ;) I was not even thinking donations would increase release.
I meant while it was on the topic, the site here really doesn't push Charter or Donations.
As I said I even forgot it was an option here.

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Masterd

August 17, 2014, 05:22:30 AM #190 Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 05:40:44 PM by Masterd
Quote from: ‽ on August 16, 2014, 09:11:16 PM
Payment is a huge motivation however and setting up some kind of bounty program might be an idea for consideration.

Hmm.... But wouldn't that destroy the whole point of this project?


Something to think about. Is it the human that uses the money or is it the money that uses the human?

Dragooon

Quote from: Masterd on August 17, 2014, 05:22:30 AM
Something to think about. Is it the human that uses the money or is it the money that uses the human?
Regardless, money's nice*


* Not saying that one should/shouldn't setup a bounty program

NanoSector

Quote from: ‽ on August 16, 2014, 09:11:16 PM
Payment is a huge motivation however and setting up some kind of bounty program might be an idea for consideration.
I agree with this. https://launchpad.net/elementary also does this.
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Arantor

Quote from: Masterd on August 17, 2014, 05:22:30 AM
Quote from: ‽ on August 16, 2014, 09:11:16 PM
Payment is a huge motivation however and setting up some kind of bounty program might be an idea for consideration.

Hmm.... But wouldn't that destroy the whole point of this project.


Something to think about. Is it the human that uses the money or is it the money that uses the human?

How would it destroy the point of the project? Giving money to people means they can prioritise their time here rather than on other activities that might give them money instead. Then everyone benefits from it.

Thing is, there are surprisingly many open source projects out there that pay people to work on them. Firefox and Linux, for example.
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butchs

Would payment be under the table or reportable to the IRS?
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Dragooon

Quote from: butchs on August 17, 2014, 09:34:17 AM
Would payment be under the table or reportable to the IRS?

Neither? SM is non-profit, it can still pay people.

Arantor

If such a thing were to happen with SMF I would envisage it would have to be reported to the IRS as income for the recipient. Certainly it is with the Mozilla Foundation, or even people who get paid by Google for bug bounties.

Non-profit does not mean no money. It just means that whatever revenues it makes has to used for the benefit of the organisation and its members, rather than profits for shareholders.
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Dragooon

QuoteIf such a thing were to happen with SMF I would envisage it would have to be reported to the IRS as income for the recipient
IRS or the respective tax authority in the recipient's country

Arantor

That's what I meant, but yeah, in my case if such a thing were to happen it would be HMRC I'd report.
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Illori

Quote from: Dragooon on August 17, 2014, 09:41:34 AM
Quote from: butchs on August 17, 2014, 09:34:17 AM
Would payment be under the table or reportable to the IRS?

Neither? SM is non-profit, it can still pay people.

SM is not officially a non-profit, it just uses that structure. we still need to pay taxes etc just like any other corporation.

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