Topic: The future of SMF

[Herman's Mixen]

it was ment as sacasm

i know and be long enough around

[Masterd]

Hell, if the team wanted to pay me, I could find it in my heart to work on things...

Too bad that the best things in life are always free.

[Deaks]

Too bad that the best things in life are always free.

Not always

[青山 素子]

if you wanna speed up the development, you can pay for the charter membership so the team can pay the developers for a full force development

It would need a lot of memberships if you're thinking about paying full time salaries.

[Herman's Mixen]

What did i say after that

and probally we need more charter members

[SaltedWeb]

I was a charter I guess near ten years ago when I think the 2nd beta was running to far to remember, I even forgot about it being there. Might be prudent advertise that Charter and Donation better.
I mean really who would not pay $49.95 a year for this amazing software and knowing it will help.
I just paid my hosting bill but will donate in the next two week.
Maybe get a donation thread going and get people to match it.

[Antes]

To clear something, we are not going to pay some developers to fix bugs/write features for us. If you think or get the idea of "donations will speed up development" this is false. Do not think that way, SMF is a free software and all team members are volunteer to do things around, none gets paid.

[Herman's Mixen]

nah just made a statement, how it normally goes when use paid services... and ofcourse we see still people trying too push... free services...

SMF = simple Be Free

[Arantor]

Payment is a huge motivation however and setting up some kind of bounty program might be an idea for consideration.

[SaltedWeb]

To clear something, we are not going to pay some developers to fix bugs/write features for us. If you think or get the idea of "donations will speed up development" this is false. Do not think that way, SMF is a free software and all team members are volunteer to do things around, none gets paid.

Just to clear up my comment, I was not even thinking donations would increase release.
I meant while it was on the topic, the site here really doesn't push Charter or Donations.
As I said I even forgot it was an option here.

[Masterd]

Payment is a huge motivation however and setting up some kind of bounty program might be an idea for consideration.

Hmm.... But wouldn't that destroy the whole point of this project?


Something to think about. Is it the human that uses the money or is it the money that uses the human?

[Dragooon]

Something to think about. Is it the human that uses the money or is it the money that uses the human?

Regardless, money's nice*


* Not saying that one should/shouldn't setup a bounty program

[NanoSector]

Payment is a huge motivation however and setting up some kind of bounty program might be an idea for consideration.

I agree with this. https://launchpad.net/elementary also does this.

[Arantor]

Payment is a huge motivation however and setting up some kind of bounty program might be an idea for consideration.

Hmm.... But wouldn't that destroy the whole point of this project.


Something to think about. Is it the human that uses the money or is it the money that uses the human?

How would it destroy the point of the project? Giving money to people means they can prioritise their time here rather than on other activities that might give them money instead. Then everyone benefits from it.

Thing is, there are surprisingly many open source projects out there that pay people to work on them. Firefox and Linux, for example.

[butchs]

Would payment be under the table or reportable to the IRS?

[Dragooon]

Would payment be under the table or reportable to the IRS?

Neither? SM is non-profit, it can still pay people.

[Arantor]

If such a thing were to happen with SMF I would envisage it would have to be reported to the IRS as income for the recipient. Certainly it is with the Mozilla Foundation, or even people who get paid by Google for bug bounties.

Non-profit does not mean no money. It just means that whatever revenues it makes has to used for the benefit of the organisation and its members, rather than profits for shareholders.

[Dragooon]

If such a thing were to happen with SMF I would envisage it would have to be reported to the IRS as income for the recipient

IRS or the respective tax authority in the recipient's country

[Arantor]

That's what I meant, but yeah, in my case if such a thing were to happen it would be HMRC I'd report.

[Illori]

Would payment be under the table or reportable to the IRS?

Neither? SM is non-profit, it can still pay people.

SM is not officially a non-profit, it just uses that structure. we still need to pay taxes etc just like any other corporation.