Post Font Size

Started by Paulsa, May 04, 2022, 04:23:22 PM

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Paulsa

The default post font size is too small for some people with poor vision or older ones.
It would be a courtesy to those who cannot see tiny font to increase it. The ability to change this in the Admin panel would make this a quick and useful option.

Steve

Except that you would be making the font too large for members that don't need it.
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Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen

These days browsers and operating systems have handy features that allow every user to set their own default fonts and zoom levels. I don't think the default install of SMF needs anything more really.
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plus, if an individual admin wants to bump it for their own site, then a simple CSS modification is the easiest.

Adding a whole bunch of options into the admin UI that only 1 in 100 admins might use (or less) just makes the UI look crowded.
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Would it be beneficial to put together a stickied post of CSS TWEAKS for 2.1.x which includes things like this... how to center the logo above... how to keep the top bar on screen during scroll... etc?

I know of at least 3 or 4 tweaks that would be perfect additions... and I am sure more come out they could be added?

Now,  PERSONALLY,  I've saved each of these tweaks locally because I found I was "searching" for them on here and thought to myself (durr... save `em as txt files!)... but I digress... a centralized depository for these kinds of CSS tweaks would probably help y'all a lot... you could simply point people to the post when they had these kinds of questions.

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Arantor

T&T really could do with some kind of index though.
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True, the index it has is not very well maintained.
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Arantor

Honestly though, I'd actually be supportive if a more thorough accessibility kit came into core. Something that could stop animations, a desaturation filter, some kind of high contrast mode, something not only for text size but text spacing too. Maybe even alternative font choices for readability?

Widgets exist that you can hook in (e.g. Userway) but I think it'd be interesting to support the key functionality out of the box.
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Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen

Something like that could be a good optional feature, or a mod package. But as long as it's just about font size, I find  ctrl+mouse wheel the easiest, fastest and most personal option that I don't see much reason to try and replace. 
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Arantor

That's just it, it's not really enough. It scales everything else up as well, and honestly the UI could do with a declutter in general, which would benefit everyone.

I would note the OP explicitly wanted options that weren't "just change zoom" and honestly I wonder how many people get left behind because those of us that are (for want of a better word) better-abled do others a disservice by saying "this is good enough for me, it should be good enough for everyone".
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Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen

Well, most browsers also have a built in setting for font size alone. Brave, Chrome and Edge for example all have 5 different text sizes built in.
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Quote from: Paulsa on May 04, 2022, 04:23:22 PMThe default post font size is too small for some people with poor vision or older ones.
It would be a courtesy to those who cannot see tiny font to increase it. The ability to change this in the Admin panel would make this a quick and useful option.
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Steve

Quote from: Aleksi "Lex" Kilpinen on May 05, 2022, 11:22:20 AMWell, most browsers also have a built in setting for font size alone. Brave, Chrome and Edge for example all have 5 different text sizes built in.
As does Firefox. It even goes further. Text size from 9 to 72 and all the fonts you could want available. You can even prevent pages from overriding your settings.
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gevv

This is a big problem in my opinion, font size is small for everyone young and old. i edit css on every install, update

It would be nice if it was added to the Look and Layout settings.

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Quote from: gevv on May 06, 2022, 05:46:58 AMThis is a big problem in my opinion, font size is small for everyone young and old.
I assume I am not included in "everyone" then.
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Nor I ...

Why bloat the software with features that very few will utilize when the above options are available?
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Quote from: gevv on May 06, 2022, 05:46:58 AMThis is a big problem in my opinion, font size is small for everyone young and old.

Have you really asked everyone who uses SMF?
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Quote from: Steve on May 06, 2022, 07:57:52 AMNor I ...

Why bloat the software with features that very few will utilize when the above options are available?

And this is why I won't be participating in future SMF development. I have been concerned for years about the fallacious views on bloat but it's clear to me that the team will never come to a position I am comfortable with.

I do not consider "learn to use your browser" as an adequate replacement.

In any case how do you know very few would use it? Did you ask a statistically relevant sample including people with visual impairments?
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