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#41
SMF 2.1.x Support / Re: What does it mean to unapp...
Last post by Burt - Today at 12:04:51 AM
Quote from: Kindred on Yesterday at 09:35:02 PMI still disagree. :P

The opposite of approve is disapprove. Approval/disapproval- absolutely...

However, the corollary to the adjective approved is unapproved, not disapproved, which is a past tense verb, not an adjective--- and hence the action of making something unapproved is to unapprove.

It really makes no difference to me if you agree or unagree  ;D

Is not up to you to decide how we write in English in my country... You can do as you wish in yours...
  
#42
Bug Reports / Re: Fatal Error: Call to unde...
Last post by MobileCS - Yesterday at 11:47:45 PM
Quote from: Sesquipedalian on Yesterday at 03:31:37 PM
Quote from: MobileCS on Yesterday at 02:29:47 PMAre there any known issues with manually trying to run the Weekly Maintenance in scheduled tasks?
Nope.

For your case, it might help to know two things:

  • The task to update the Unicode files happens in the background after the Weekly Maintenance task runs, not during the Weekly Maintenance task. Weekly Maintenance itself just adds the Unicode update task to the task queue so that a subsequent call to cron.php will run it. This is because the Unicode update process can take an unpredictable amount of time to complete, since it requires fetching a bunch of data files from an external source and is therefore subject to all manner of possible connectivity issues.
  • The Unicode update task checks whether the necessary files are writable at the start of the process and reports the error you quoted if the files are not writable. At the end of the process, once the new versions of all the data files have been built, they are moved into place. If for any reason the files cannot be moved into place, the operation is aborted silently.

In light of these two facts, it is entirely possible that if you changed the file permissions, manually ran Weekly Maintenance, and then changed the file permissions soon afterward, the Unicode update might end up failing silently. This would be because the Unicode update task started before you reverted the file permissions, but it didn't finish until after you reverted the file permissions. That specific sequence of events would cause the update to fail silently.

Thank you for explaining how that works. It sounds like the issue might be with connectivity to the external source.

I'd imagine 10 minutes should be more than enough, especially since I'm running cron.php every minute via crontab on my own dedicated server (Xeon CPU, 128 GB RAM, 1 Gbps port).

I'll give it another shot in the morning and report back.
#43
SMF 2.1.x Support / Re: What does it mean to unapp...
Last post by Kindred - Yesterday at 09:35:02 PM
I still disagree. :P

The opposite of approve is disapprove. Approval/disapproval- absolutely...

However, the corollary to the adjective approved is unapproved, not disapproved, which is a past tense verb, not an adjective--- and hence the action of making something unapproved is to unapprove.
#44
Organizational News and Updates / Re: TOR Blocked
Last post by Oldiesmann - Yesterday at 09:20:25 PM
Quote from: Rakibbro on Yesterday at 02:16:39 AMThat's surprising! Didn't know SMF is blocked in some countries. A user group for VPN users sounds like a smart workaround. Thanks for sharing this!

The only way that could be done though is through manual registration - someone would have to email the team with their desired username/password/email address, then wait until an admin could register them and add them to that group.
#45
Hey, Ant, good to see you again. :)
#46
SMF 2.0.x Support / Re: Can't login
Last post by Sir Osis of Liver - Yesterday at 08:43:16 PM
Ask your other admin to change the cookie name in Admin > Server Settings > Cookies and Sessions.  That will log everyone out, and they'll get a clean cookie when they log back in.
#47
SMF 2.1.x Support / Re: Problem updating Smf
Last post by Sir Osis of Liver - Yesterday at 08:39:19 PM
You don't need the upgrade package if you're already in 2.1.  You can update by installing the patch in package manager.
#48
SMF 2.1.x Support / Re: What does it mean to unapp...
Last post by Burt - Yesterday at 07:52:22 PM
Quote from: Kindred on Yesterday at 12:19:07 AM
Quote from: Burt on July 13, 2025, 10:44:05 PMI think this looks much better:

Removal of approval for some previously approved thing is "disapproving" an approved state  ;D

Look around...

https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-opposite-of/approved.html

https://www.applied-grammar.com/opposite-of-approved/

https://www.powerthesaurus.org/approved/antonyms



Sorry, but no.  As far as American English goes, disapproving a topic is wrong usage.

I'm an English teacher - i would mark your usage as incorrect on any paper that I graded.  😜

You mean an "American English" teacher...  ;D   

It has always been like that, even before you were born.. Nobody knows why but every country that does use the English language, other than the UK, eventually drift away from the conventional to suit their needs..

Personally, I prefer to stick with the UK version of the English language, possibly because to us (AUS) makes more sense..

We have our different version of English here as well, as you probably already know.. Have you ever driven a ute before?  ;)
#49
Bug Reports / Re: Fatal Error: Call to unde...
Last post by shawnb61 - Yesterday at 07:51:31 PM
Quote from: zappaDPJ on Yesterday at 07:13:09 PMI'm sure your knowledge in this area goes way beyond mine but I can't wrap my head around why the issue as described didn't take out every SMF forum on the planet.

I'm actually at the other end of that spectrum...  I'm unclear how it's taking out sites at all.  The issue is specific to Punycode usage, and even then to a specific subset of characters.  I could see that possibly affecting some posts with Punycode links, etc. 

But take down a site?  Maybe if folks are using Punycode in their boardurls?  I haven't applied the fix to any of my test environments and they're all fine.
#50
Bug Reports / Re: Fatal Error: Call to unde...
Last post by zappaDPJ - Yesterday at 07:13:09 PM
Quote from: shawnb61 on July 13, 2025, 01:59:00 AMThe unicode tables are now updated straight from the source.  Part of the weekly maintenance task.

But the unicode folks made a huge change in direction in a recent revision (#33) of unicode 6 - while the smf code is operating under the prior rules.   

I'm sure your knowledge in this area goes way beyond mine but I can't wrap my head around why the issue as described didn't take out every SMF forum on the planet.
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