Smiley Pops

ITB · November 07, 2007, 10:31:43 PM

Quote from: BiGBLiZZ on November 07, 2007, 10:26:10 PM
Every file should pass, and install without problems. The only cause for this that I can see is that you have something that has already altered those files or for some reason the files don't exist where your forum is looking.

Do you have a link to your forum? Have you renamed/removed any default files or folders?

I haven't renamed or removed any files, but I do have several other mods installed. I guess I'll just have to add it manually. the forum is realitycafe.us

BiGBLiZZ · November 07, 2007, 10:56:35 PM

Which other mods do you have installed that effect those files? I would be interested for any updates to the Mod and for debugging purposes.

ITB · November 07, 2007, 11:12:20 PM

Quote from: BiGBLiZZ on November 07, 2007, 10:56:35 PM
Which other mods do you have installed that effect those files? I would be interested for any updates to the Mod and for debugging purposes.

Heres the list of mods I have installed

1.    SMF 1.0.12 / 1.1.4 / 2.0 b1.1 Update    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
2.    Bookmarks    1.0.1    [ Uninstall ]
3.    SMF Arcade    2.0.11    [ Uninstall ]
4.    SMF Shoutbox    1.16b    [ Uninstall ]
5.    Ignore Boards    2.0.1    [ Uninstall ]
6.    Spoiler Tag    0.3.2    [ Uninstall ]
7.    Auto Embed Video Clips    1.3    [ Uninstall ]
8.    Country Flags    1.1.1    [ Uninstall ]
9.    Sarcasmics smiley set    1.1    [ Uninstall ]
10.    Admin Notepad    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
11.    MySpace Field    2.4    [ Uninstall ]
12.    SMFShop    3.0    [ Uninstall ]
13.    User Control Panel By Alan S    1.3    [ Uninstall ]
14.    Welcome Topic Mod    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
15.    Users Online Today Mod    1.4.0    [ Uninstall ]
16.    SMF Gallery Lite    1.8.1.1    [ Uninstall ]
17.    SMF Links    1.6.5    [ Uninstall ]
18.    Blabberizer    2.1u    [ Uninstall ]
19.    MiniClip Game Embed BBC Tag    0.1

BiGBLiZZ · November 07, 2007, 11:22:02 PM

If you figure out which of those altered those files would you let me know? I have tested tis with a few of them (arcade, shout, etc.) I am looking at blabberizer, ignore boards, bookmarks, or country flags as the culprit though.. hmmm.

ITB · November 07, 2007, 11:26:00 PM

Quote from: BiGBLiZZ on November 07, 2007, 11:22:02 PM
If you figure out which of those altered those files would you let me know? I have tested tis with a few of them (arcade, shout, etc.) I am looking at blabberizer, ignore boards, bookmarks, or country flags as the culprit though.. hmmm.

I'll keep yo up to date on anything I figure out Thanks for the ideas

ITB · November 18, 2007, 10:37:26 PM

Quote from: BiGBLiZZ on November 07, 2007, 11:22:02 PM
If you figure out which of those altered those files would you let me know? I have tested tis with a few of them (arcade, shout, etc.) I am looking at blabberizer, ignore boards, bookmarks, or country flags as the culprit though.. hmmm.

I think it was SMFshop, I uninstalled it then pops installed fine. Now however we got all our smileys grouped and they dissapeared from the shoutbox

BiGBLiZZ · November 19, 2007, 01:51:26 AM

Did they disappear to the point of not able to be used at all, or just the old ones disappeared?

ITB · November 19, 2007, 02:05:08 AM

they dissapeared and were not replaced with the category links like in the reply screen.We can still use the codes and they show up.

BiGBLiZZ · November 19, 2007, 02:08:04 AM

Hmm.. the shout box is actually something I didn't think about... which shoutbox are you using? The one I have you need to use the shortcuts, LOL

ITB · November 19, 2007, 02:10:28 AM

Quote from: BiGBLiZZ on November 19, 2007, 02:08:04 AM
Hmm.. the shout box is actually something I didn't think about... which shoutbox are you using? The one I have you need to use the shortcuts, LOL

SMFShoutbox

BiGBLiZZ · November 19, 2007, 02:14:06 AM

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4. SMF Shoutbox 1.16b [ Uninstall ]

Oh yeah.. heh. I haven't seen that one. Do you have a link to your forum so I can see how it is set up? (If you want to PM it instead of post that is fine).

digiSal · November 25, 2007, 12:02:32 AM

i have a strange problem. lets see if i can describe it.

For now i only have two smiley sets.

Default and Classic.

So lets say in the drop down box i select Classic. Then i put check marks on the first three smilies. Then at the bottom I select to Move them to my only Group wich i labeled More. The weird part happens after this. Any changes I made to the first three smileys in the Classic set also takes affect in the Default set. Know what I mean?

Also, cant get the pop up on my custom theme. mustve missed something.

thanks.

BiGBLiZZ · November 25, 2007, 09:36:36 AM

Well, anything you do to a smiley in one set takes place in the other set. That is an SMF standard. However, you must realize that this mod takes advantage of the hidden feature. When you move a smiley to a group made by this mod, essentially you are making it hidden. Inside the hidden group of SMF is where the groups are made and stored, the smileys are moved to the hidden part, sorted to the group and then "unhidden" when they are in that group. So basically your first three smileys are hidden. And as with default smiley handling, if you hide one smiley from a set, and it is in the other set, it hides both.

As for your custom theme, this mod only edits 5 files, view files in package manager and see which file is used that your custom theme has. This is the one you will need to make the manual changes to.

littleone · November 25, 2007, 10:56:55 AM

anyway to get this to work with Quick reply?

BiGBLiZZ · November 25, 2007, 04:14:06 PM

I am sure there is. I am currently (in my free time) working on including it in SMF shoutbox. I will add quick reply to my list as well. I have no ETA though.

Mother Goose · November 27, 2007, 06:39:32 AM

It looks like things have gone very smoothly with this mod! Congratulations BiGBLiZZ! I hope to install your mod today!

Wish us luck!!

Mother Goose · November 27, 2007, 06:58:53 PM

Yikes! BiGBLiZZ, this is the message I found from the guy who helps me with the techi stuff on my forum...

QuoteAs for the mod , The moment i tried to install it it caused problems , It added all the code to the files , When it shouldnt have , Messed up the database , Caused plenty of errors throughout the forum , I have managed to fix them and i would highly recommend not installing this mod!

I *really* need your mod. What do you think? I can tell you what the error log says if you need that info.

BiGBLiZZ · November 28, 2007, 03:49:29 PM

What do I think? Well.. I think something is wrong (perhaps with the user?) I don't know what though.

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It added all the code to the files , When it shouldnt have ,

It will only add the code when "apply mod" is pressed. Otherwise it just sits idly, waiting.

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Messed up the database

Specifics would help, the only thing this does is add an ID to the existing smiley table, and adds a new table smiley_groups. Nothing else is touched, and to my knowledge there is only one other Mod on SMF that alters the smiley table. Messing up a database is not something a script can do. It sounds like a permissions thing.

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Caused plenty of errors throughout the forum

When first installed, there will be errors in the log until you make a group and put smileys in it. Unless the first thing you do is create at least one group and put at least one smiley in it before any member goes to the PM box or posts a reply. Otherwise you will get an undefined index error. Once you have your groups those will clear.

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The moment i tried to install it it caused problems

To date I have personally helped 4 different forums with problems 'caused' by my mod. Each one of them has turned out to be a problem with the forum itself or another mod that actually had problems, not my mod. I am not saying it can't happen, but I haven't seen it yet. And if any of those 4 still watch this thread I am sure they will personally attest to this fact.

My guess is there is permission gaps and some other mod installed is wreaking havoc behind the scenes, which changing the base file (probably Subs.php) has brought into the light.

Mother Goose · November 28, 2007, 04:30:44 PM

LOL That's usually the problem I have. A "user error". LOL

Listen, if this was in any way perceived as major assault on your hard work, I apologize. I want to use this mod! I am sure we can make it work.

I was surprised at the difficulty, all things seemed to be going smoothly for your mod. But honestly, all things are now in the hands of some complete amateurs once it was released. The guys who helps me is very good, but not everything is in his skill set.

Please be patient with me, including how I phrase things. I in no way was implying this is a faulty mod, just quoting his first frustrated response.

My bet is it all lays in that critical piece of information I had not seen before,

QuoteWhen first installed, there will be errors in the log until you make a group and put smileys in it. Unless the first thing you do is create at least one group and put at least one smiley in it before any member goes to the PM box or posts a reply. Otherwise you will get an undefined index error. Once you have your groups those will clear.

BiGBLiZZ · November 29, 2007, 03:50:45 PM

No, I didn't take anything you said like that. I hope I didn't come off too abrasive.

I can only tell you what I have experienced. Without seeing the errors, or the problems in some way I don't really have much to go on to help you with.

If everything is working on your forum the way it should be, and you want to install this mod. I would suggest you do the following:

1) Put the forum in maintenance mode.
2) sign in as Admin of the forum and go to admin panel, forum error log, clear all.
3) Go to every page on the admin panel, all tabs, etc. then go to PM, and send one to yourself. Go make a test post somewhere inthe forum. Basically go look at everything you forum has, do everything you can do on the forum.
4) Go back and look at the error log. make a note of any that stand out as "problematic" and again, clear the log.
5) Back up the forum and the Database, completely.
6) install the Smiley Pops Mod on your forum.
7) create a few categories and move smileys around.

Complete step 3 again.
9) Complete Step 4 again.
10) compare differences from step 4 and step 9 and then let me know what is happening and those differences.

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