It did the same to me using Chrome but fine on FF.

 


i hope for the good result.

regards, GISfreak

Quote from: Nao on January 29, 2010, 06:22:10 PM

Quote from: Jade Elizabeth on January 29, 2010, 12:37:51 PM
I'm glad to see a little more transparency towards the public, if I'm honest. It's about time that happened.

I'm reading this with Chrome, and your post breaks the page! Nothing shows up after it...

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<blockquote>[12:13am] <%Jade> link me<br />[12:14am] <+orstio> <a href="Jade">link</a></blockquote>
It breaks at the "< %". Which is, I believe, starter code for VBScript. I smell a SMF bug!

I commented on this in Site Comments, actually.

Quote from: Jade Elizabeth on January 29, 2010, 12:37:51 PM
I'm glad to see a little more transparency towards the public, if I'm honest. It's about time that happened.

also the signature contents are missing in Chrome.

Long (but quiet) supporter of SMF wishing good luck with the peace keeping

I have deep respect for SMF and swear it's the best out there. Nothing will shake me from that opinion.  But, as a grown adult who has had experience with PR and management...I have to say that announcing your issues, even if it's in a positive way, saying, for example "we're trying to work out our differences with so-and-so"...is never wise. It makes the company look immature and unstable...it makes people who would otherwise NOT be shaken by these problems....think twice about the product or services offered...it detracts, distracts and takes away the focus FROM the product or service....and it's airing dirty laundry in public. 

All of a sudden, we're starting to see all these posts about problems and restructuring and issues...etc.  How does that reflect, in the long term, on a company or their PERCEIVED stability?  I believe that internal issues should be resolved maturely, quietly and internally; never in front of a live audience goading people on from both sides. That's just, in my opinion only,  not the mature, adult or smart way to deal with things. I sincerely applaud the efforts for resolutions to problems...but really....you all are painting yourselves in a poor light by announcing all this stuff to the world. Making everyone aware that the ship has holes, is never a wise thing for the captain to do.  If you ask me (and I am aware nobody has) I would be forced to say "just go about making SMF the best it can be and keep all the internal whining and bickering where it should be kept...internal.   There's no need for press releases and big ol' front page announcements about who's trying to kiss and make up after the fight in the school yard.  That stuff is for high school students.  Image is everything.  Newbies looking for a good, solid product like SMF will come here and read about all this internal crap, and you could lose more than you gain by this new "open-ness" on your front page.

But, you know what they say about opinions. Mine's worth about 2 cents...and either way, SMF will be just fine and dandy. I'll never stop using it....or referring others to it.  The crew is a good one.  I have no beef with anyone. I just wish you all would stop having issues with each other....at least, not in front of the children. We don't like it when mommy and daddy fight.  You know? Just wanted to express my views with respect.

Peace,

David

A well constructed post there David, expressing the thoughts of many.

Interesting point there, David.

One thing I will say: the issues were not being acknowledged properly by both sides, such that we saw all kinds of less diplomatic solutions going on, and a lot more mud-slinging. This, really, is actually more mature than what was going on before.

Thanks for the great post David111567.

I also think it's time to get back to work here! The whole community is waiting for RC3 and not the bickering!
I say remove the threads and get the bugs out of 2.0

Cheers
Bob

David, your post has good points, but would like to put light onto several points:
1. The SMF team, AFAIK, is overall very young (in their 20's). You can't expect full maturity on their side. Heck, I'm 34 and I totally say I'm immature myself
2. The SMF software is still free and will stay free... It doesn't have to behave by "company standards". It tries to, but it doesn't have to.
3. If you're looking for similar "serious" and mature forum software companies that make millions selling their products, why not try vBulletin?
Oh, wait...
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?337121-Former-vBulletin-lead-developer-Kier-Darby-to-develop-new-forum-software&p=1905469&viewfull=1#post1905469
Forgot I said anything about respectable companies

Apart from that, good points you made.

Quote from: vbgamer45 on January 28, 2010, 02:34:08 PM
This is best forum software I have ever used and will continue to use for everything I do.

+1

Good news SMF

Quote from: Nao on January 30, 2010, 08:27:09 AM
David, your post has good points, but would like to put light onto several points:
1. The SMF team, AFAIK, is overall very young (in their 20's). You can't expect full maturity on their side. Heck, I'm 34 and I totally say I'm immature myself

Well..at 42...I still have my days of romping around like an idiot too...so..yes,  you make a very good point, there.

Quote
2. The SMF software is still free and will stay free... It doesn't have to behave by "company standards". It tries to, but it doesn't have to.

yes, indeed, but if you ruin the image of that product and people become afraid to be involved with it...free or not...it does no good if no one wants it...or if you cut your own throats while you're busy  mud-slinging.  Free or paid become a moot point. It's not about "company standards".  It's about "standards".  SMF is better than this. 

Quote3. If you're looking for similar "serious" and mature forum software companies that make millions selling their products, why not try vBulletin?
Oh, wait...
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?337121-Former-vBulletin-lead-developer-Kier-Darby-to-develop-new-forum-software&p=1905469&viewfull=1#post1905469
Forgot I said anything about respectable companies

I think you must have forgotten the part where I said I truly believe SMF is the best and that I would never stop using it.  I already tossed "The Big V" out in favor of SMF.  I never said I was looking for more mature software. As if the one you mentioned even came close. I don't believe it does.   But again...everyone has an opinion, it's cool that we have the ability to express them....mine is valued about as much as the next guy's at the end of the day.  As long as there's respect that goes along with those opinions, there's endless possibilities, as well.

QuoteApart from that, good points you made.

Thanks.  Have a good one, everyone.

David

David the problem is that after what the administration done it became very public, smf friends got banned, normal users got banned, people posted things with alot of people viewing and the team removed the post or edited it so the truth was hidden, blog posts were made, a public forum was created where people learnt more, over 30% of the team stood down (including leads and a SMF LLC partner), the issue was public, so its only mature to show that the team and those that were effected are in negotiations to try and sort things, to show a sign of faith between the two for the betterment of SMF, granted I see talks as pointless but I am interested to see what will be said and in an attempt to get things sorted. 

Quote from: David111567 on January 30, 2010, 01:13:36 PM

Quote from: Nao on January 30, 2010, 08:27:09 AM
2. The SMF software is still free and will stay free... It doesn't have to behave by "company standards". It tries to, but it doesn't have to.

yes, indeed, but if you ruin the image of that product and people become afraid to be involved with it...free or not...it does no good if no one wants it...or if you cut your own throats while you're busy  mud-slinging.  Free or paid become a moot point. It's not about "company standards".  It's about "standards".  SMF is better than this. 

Secrecy is not a good selling point in a community based project.

Many have contributed as they can to SMF as team members, volunteers and individual users who have made small contributions in the manner of fixes, testing and reporting. Free or paid is a very relevant point when your project is not only for the public but of the public as well.

Quote from: Runic on January 30, 2010, 02:39:51 PMgranted I see talks as pointless

Talks, like real discussions, are never pointless. Thru dat maybe they won't solve problems, or even a specific problem right away, but they offer a opening to a solution.
Bud I understand your scepticisem.

QuoteSecrecy is not a good selling point in a community based project.

Public in-fighting is not a good selling point in a community based project.

Imagine going to a store or a restaurant with the intention of getting something....and watching one employee announcing a problem...followed by a debate among the rest of the employees, followed by a referee appointed to sort it out, followed by other announcements regarding problems...from the OTHER employees....etc etc....all in front of the customers. Now, honestly, would you feel comfortable in that environment?  Would you believe in their product? Would you believe in their ability to grind out upgrades and cooperatively work together to provide the public with a pleasant support atmosphere? If the cooks are fighting with the boss...publicly....I sure don't wanna sit down at their table and eat their food.  The atmosphere is part of the package. It truly matters how you present yourself. You are your product. You're the face of the whole operation. Doesn't matter if it's Microsoft, McDonalds, or Joe Nobody's Nifty Soup Factory. There's no place for public hostility or grumbling within any organization.

QuoteMany have contributed as they can to SMF as team members, volunteers and individual users who have made small contributions in the manner of fixes, testing and reporting. Free or paid is a very relevant point when your project is not only for the public but of the public as well.

That's exactly my point. 

I too am very optimistic about the possible outcome of the discussion that is in place. I'd also like to thank Kindred for promising updates to the community as progress is made, afterall SMF's existence primarily depends on the support of the community not the agreement of the two parties

I would say that not all the people who are in the friends group was concerned by this dispute...