AjaxChat Integration (latest version 3.2.1)

[mrtrc266]

@ bigloutx  Isn't that exactly what I said, that you were NOT talkin about this Mod?

All that crap he was talking about he was NOT referring to this Mod. It looked like he was on a rant about mods in general.

I understood exaclty what you were saying but I just wanted to make it clear to everyone else that you weren't talkin about this Mod in particular, especially since you never once hit this board for support. I was actually one your side.

Your 2 cents was valid, I hope you find something that works for you.

@ bigloutx and EclecticHoobajoo

If you want to see how well this Mod works on SMF 1.1.8 and SMF 2RC1 you can check it out here SMF 118 and here SMF2 RC1

[Gul Ducat]

You also stated that there were no mods that placed ads.

From my perspective, the only logical solution which could reduce the sometimes seemingly unrecognized efforts of people like you, is to better moderate the posting of SMF mods.  Members like you devote alot of time to helping others with mod issues which could be avoided if well intentioned mod authors just took the time to post mods in a more organized fashion.

A good start would be to redesign the present mod submission form located at http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?action=postmod;sa=new to include more details about the mod.  Especially details on installation and configuration instructions, user editable features/variables, and any other feature that may cause installation issues.

I guess the best way to describe the desired result would be to have mod authors assume that the end user is NOT a coder and to write descriptions and instructions as if they were the users and not the knowledgeable code writers.

In my business life I have always tried to view things from the clients uninformed perspective.  Yes, free mods are just that, free.  But, if a mod writer is truly proud of their craft and they are genuinely writing free code, why not go the extra mile and do it right?  I know I would appreciate it even more and the support staff here could spend more time catching up on Twinkies, diet cokes, and sleep. 

[Gul Ducat]

I am curious, what exact procedure did you use for the RC1 installation : http://www.monsters-mansion.com/smf2/index.php?action=forum [nofollow]

I tried yours and it seems to work fine as it should.  All I've ever done is install the package via smf's package installer and it installs OK but when it comes to using it, it does not properly list users in chat (inside chat or on the tab or in the footer of the index page).

Unlike yours, in my installation, the chat window opens but users never appear in the right pane.  It almost seems like no one is present, not even the single user.  Your installation shows a right pane with the following info:

# Logout
# List online users
# List ignored users
# List available channels
# Describe action
# Roll dice
# Change username

Mine is blank and only has the title: Online Users.  Chat button or online user area does not show users in chat.

When sending a chat message in the chat box, after hitting "submit", it never appears in the larger box where the username/message gets posted.

On the main forum page, the shoutbox is reduced to a non usable small box on the main forum page.

Any thoughts?

[djrem]

Can someone please confirm that this is compatible with FlashChat still installed?

My reason is, i have a working version of FlashChat working perfectly fine but i would like to test AJAX chat just to work on a shoutbox system for TinyPortal.

I'm not an expert coder so dont want to jump in and install it knowing that it is already using the same "chat" folder that flashchat utilises.

If the folder conflicts then are there more? Database etc.

Could we branch the mod so it does use the vague "chat" tag but a specific "ajaxchat" or similar?

Sorry to be a bother but this is really cutting out potential users in its current state.

[getandshare]

enable your shoutbox for guests for a minute

I wasn't actually enabling and disabling shoutbox... i was just switching back to the index.template.php file i kept as backup....

Bro... i got a thought....
What if the shoutbox will be just above my Top Stats mod.... i mean where top stats mod displays it self on index...
That way shoutbox wont be interfering with the login box...
What you say to that?

I was asking you to enable the shoutbox for guests for a minute so I could take a look.

Yes you could place th shoutbox where ever you like, but isn't that towards the bottom of your page?

Yes that way it will be below all forum's list and above top stats mod...
But that would be fine... because people already scroll down alot to see what are the latest posts....

I was having trouble finding which mod is this forum using to display staff groups in users online like...

[Beta Tester]  [Charter Member]  [Customizer]  [Developer]  [Doc Writer]  [Language Moderator]  [Marketing]  [Project Manager]  [Site Team]  [SMF Friend]  [Support Specialist]

any idea to that?


Regarding shoutbox activation... bro... i don't know what time you will be online so that i activate it...

[mrtrc266]

You also stated that there were no mods that placed ads.

This is what I said (key words "this Mod")  "LOL...I've never seen any posts about ads being in this Mod, I can assure you there are no ads."

From my perspective, the only logical solution which could reduce the sometimes seemingly unrecognized efforts of people like you, is to better moderate the posting of SMF mods.  Members like you devote alot of time to helping others with mod issues which could be avoided if well intentioned mod authors just took the time to post mods in a more organized fashion.

It is unavoidable to not have issues and Sunking said it exactly  right and his patience is greatly appreciated.

I am having issues and been requesting help with them for a while....with no solution yet.

But, I also know that any major mod (not just some cheesy mod that changes green text to blue or some crap like that) cannot possibly take into consideration every possible configuration from host to server settings to PHP to MySQL to internet connection to personal computer to users themselves. Ask questions. You'll get answers. Sometimes a dash of patience is required too. Oh yeah....and make backups before installing mods...just in case.....(you did make backups, right?)

</myrant>

Oh...btw.... any progress with a solution for my problem? 

A good start would be to redesign the present mod submission form located at http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?action=postmod;sa=new to include more details about the mod.  Especially details on installation and configuration instructions, user editable features/variables, and any other feature that may cause installation issues.

I agree 100% I have seen many Mods with zero details but this Mod does give a good description of what to expect on the dl page. http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1319 and if you click on the big Purple FAQ link on that page it will take you to a posts that will help most users fix their problems and or customize the chat to suit their needs.

I guess the best way to describe the desired result would be to have mod authors assume that the end user is NOT a coder and to write descriptions and instructions as if they were the users and not the knowledgeable code writers. In my business life I have always tried to view things from the clients uninformed perspective.  Yes, free mods are just that, free.  But, if a mod writer is truly proud of their craft and they are genuinely writing free code, why not go the extra mile and do it right?  I know I would appreciate it even more and the support staff here could spend more time catching up on Twinkies, diet cokes, and sleep. 

Once again I agree but you can only make VERY complex so simple, why do you think that the boards with the most support/problems are chat and or shout boards? I'm not a coder by any means but it's obvious these are the most complex Mods for any forum platform not just SMF.


Ok now on to your issue

I am curious, what exact procedure did you use for the RC1 installation : http://www.monsters-mansion.com/smf2/index.php?action=forum

I tried yours and it seems to work fine as it should.  All I've ever done is install the package via smf's package installer and it installs OK but when it comes to using it, it does not properly list users in chat (inside chat or on the tab or in the footer of the index page).

Unlike yours, in my installation, the chat window opens but users never appear in the right pane.  It almost seems like no one is present, not even the single user.  Your installation shows a right pane with the following info:

# Logout
# List online users
# List ignored users
# List available channels
# Describe action
# Roll dice
# Change username

Mine is blank and only has the title: Online Users.  Chat button or online user area does not show users in chat.

When sending a chat message in the chat box, after hitting "submit", it never appears in the larger box where the username/message gets posted.

On the main forum page, the shoutbox is reduced to a non usable small box on the main forum page.

Any thoughts?

You're gonna get a kick out of this one, it looks like you have the same problem that Sunking has which there hasn't been a solution for YET. Please be patient where there is a will there is a way, it's only a matter of time before this issue is nailed down.

Do you have any other Mod installed, it was just recently discovered that Pretty URLs interferes with this and will not let it work, there may be other Mods as well.

[Gul Ducat]

Based on what I've seen so far, I can only assume that the problems are either server/file permission issues or as you pointed out, a conflicting mod.

Here's what I have installed, no pretty url's:

1.    Moderators Receive To Right    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
2.    Pm Number in All Pages    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
3.    MessagePreviewOnHover    1.7    [ Uninstall ]
4.    RSS Feed Icon    1.1    [ Uninstall ]
5.    Hide Info Center From Guests    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
6.    BK-SMF Sub-Board    1.5    [ Uninstall ]
7.    The Rules    1.2    [ Uninstall ]
8.    Custom Tab    1.2    [ Uninstall ]
9.    Custom Copyright    1.1    [ Uninstall ]
10.    Add IP2Location to Track IP    1.2    [ Uninstall ]
11.    Skype Profile Field    1.1    [ Uninstall ]
12.    Redirect on Login and/or Logout mod    0.3    [ Uninstall ]
13.    Share this topic - SMF Mod    1.3    [ Uninstall ]
14.    Time Logged-In    3.3    [ Uninstall ]
15.    PM Readed    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
16.    New Topic Button    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
17.    PM to New Members    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
18.    Stop Spammer    2.2    [ Uninstall ]
19.    Quick PM    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
20.    PDF Tag    1.1    [ Uninstall ]
21.    Internal_Links_Use_Same_Window    1.2    [ Uninstall ]
22.    reCAPTCHA for SMF    0.9.5.4a    [ Uninstall ]
23.    Images On Board    2.0    [ Uninstall ]
24.    Floating Bar Mod    1.1    [ Uninstall ]
25.    Justify BBCode    2.1    [ Uninstall ]
26.    Enhanced PM Warning Message    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
27.    Date_Registerd on post    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
28.    Global Headers Footers    2.0    [ Uninstall ]
29.    Custom Fields On Memberlist    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
30.    Avatar On Board RC1    2.1    [ Uninstall ]
31.    Custom Form Mod    1.3    [ Uninstall ]
32.    Hack's Park Color Picker    1.0.1    [ Uninstall ]
33.    Hide SMF Version    1.0.3b    [ Uninstall ]
34.    AllCaps Notifier    1.0    [ Uninstall ]
35.    eFloating Bar for Guest & Members    0.1

[.HuNTeR.]

@Sunking can you post your installed mod too?

[mrtrc266]

Yes that way it will be below all forum's list and above top stats mod...
But that would be fine... because people already scroll down alot to see what are the latest posts....

Come to think of if the shoutbox is in your index template so it goes across all the pages, it would have to be added to the boardindex.template to place it there. I played with it but couldn't get it going, will mess with it some more.

I was having trouble finding which mod is this forum using to display staff groups in users online like...

[Beta Tester]  [Charter Member]  [Customizer]  [Developer]  [Doc Writer]  [Language Moderator]  [Marketing]  [Project Manager]  [Site Team]  [SMF Friend]  [Support Specialist]

any idea to that?

It's actually in your theme setttings go to Admin/Current Theme/ and check "Show group key on board index"

[getandshare]

thanks for the second part....

I had come across that setting so many times but always overlooked it... lolllllzzz

[mrtrc266]

I somehow got the package manager to try to install it, but got the following error:

Database Error: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8 COLLATE=utf8_bin' at line 8
File: /html/smf/Packages/temp/Tables_1.1.X.php
Line: 20

Hey EclecticHoobajoo, sorry about your frustration on getting this going, I think the problem might be where you installed the chat first and then this intergration Mod which also installs the chat for you as it clearly states on the Download page.

note if you already have previous version of this mod after uninstalling the previous version delete the entire chat folder too. new version install the chat by self.

It seems as though you have installed AJAX Chat twice which could lead to serious problems on getting this to work.

If you would like to try it again I would drop all the Ajax Chat tables in your database from MyphpAdmin. Delete the chat and shoutbox folders and then upload this Mod via your package manager and install again.

Or like you said, wait for the next release to see if that helps. It should be coming soon

As you can see from the 59 pages of the support board ALMOST everyone has got this to work. As SunKing has stated the Mod Author cannot take into account every possible configuration, PHP version, Mysql version/setttings, server settings/restrictions and ALL other installed Mods that might interfere with this Mod. On another note some servers even restrict chat programs and you might have to get their permission to allow you to use one. There are a number of variables that could cause this to give some people problems.

It's not the Mod it's self nor is it the author of the Mod. I have it going on 3 sites and 3 different versions on SMF and have never had any problems with it. Also I have assisted at least 100 people on getting it going on their site and it's working perfectly for them now too. The only problem I had was when I was using it on a free hosting site and I requested support from the host, they did something and then it worked fine.

[mrtrc266]

@ djrem
I haven't heard of anyone using this along side Flash Chat. I wouldn't try it if Flash Chat already occupies a /chat folder. That might take some serious recoding (or not) I'm not sure.

[Astro RTM]

I got a small problem

[[unplugged]]

@Sunking can you post your installed mod too?

Here is my list of installed mods:

   Mod Name     Version     
1.    AjaxChat Integration    3.0    [ Uninstall ] [ List Files ] [ Delete ]

[mrtrc266]

I got a small problem

Looks like the code is misplaced, did you get any errors during the install?

[mrtrc266]

@Sunking can you post your installed mod too?

Here is my list of installed mods:

   Mod Name     Version     
1.    AjaxChat Integration    3.0    [ Uninstall ] [ List Files ] [ Delete ]

LMAO! We're workin on it, thanks again for your patience.

[[unplugged]]

I got a small problem

Something else that has been happening with several mods is that the code gets copied all onto a single line. Then the first comment of the code block comments out most or all of the added code. I have seen it result in the same error seen there, with the code simply showing up at the top of the page. Looking at what is up there, it appears to me that it might in fact all be on a single line (although if text-wrap is on, it may appear to be more than 1 line).

[ricorico]

im baack im still looking for answers on the dice/images thing, i may be getting some support on the soundforge place tho (thanks mrt)

but as a request anyone know what kinda code id have to add to the chat.php to have like a text box for a # and a [roll] button?

we're using the /roll xd6 a lot and its just kinda annoying typing it out all the time, even copying and pasting. users thought it would be much easier if they just had to put in a # in a small input box and click roll instead (standard d6).

[madfiddler]

Hey,

I've got an install failure on this with BoardIndex.php. These are the mods I have installed...

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1.  Paid Subscriptions  0.18    [ Uninstall ]  [ List Files ]  [ Delete ]
2. Ad Managment 2.3 [ Uninstall ] [ List Files ] [ Delete ]
3. Users Online Today Mod 1.4.0 [ Uninstall ] [ List Files ] [ Delete ]
5. reCAPTCHA for SMF 0.9.5.3 [ Uninstall ] [ List Files ] [ Delete ]
7. SMF 1.0.16 / 1.1.8 Update 1.0 [ Uninstall ] [ List Files ] [ Delete ]


Any thoughts?

Thanks,

m

[mrtrc266]

Hey,

I've got an install failure on this with BoardIndex.php. These are the mods I have installed...

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1.  Paid Subscriptions  0.18    [ Uninstall ]  [ List Files ]  [ Delete ]
2. Ad Managment 2.3 [ Uninstall ] [ List Files ] [ Delete ]
3. Users Online Today Mod 1.4.0 [ Uninstall ] [ List Files ] [ Delete ]
5. reCAPTCHA for SMF 0.9.5.3 [ Uninstall ] [ List Files ] [ Delete ]
7. SMF 1.0.16 / 1.1.8 Update 1.0 [ Uninstall ] [ List Files ] [ Delete ]


Any thoughts?

Thanks,

m

Attatch your BoardIndex.php file please