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SMF Translation FAQ

Started by bostasp, March 18, 2004, 12:10:58 PM

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Skoen

I'm supposed to be on that list, I have been on a translation list since September 2002 for Norwegian translation. ETA for the Norwegian translation is March 23rd.
Alf Otto 'Skoen' Fagermo
Retired Norwegian translator


bostasp

Quote from: ivogomes on March 20, 2004, 07:36:15 AM
Quote from: bostasp on March 18, 2004, 12:10:58 PM

Portuguese ivogames



It's ivogomes ;)

The portuguese translation is 90% done. Only the Help file left to translate!!
Fixed. Sorry about that.

Quote from: Skoen on March 20, 2004, 09:50:26 AM
I'm supposed to be on that list, I have been on a translation list since September 2002 for Norwegian translation. ETA for the Norwegian translation is March 23rd.
Sorry Skoen, I know you're a translator, that list is just the one I've written up from my PM inbox ;) I'll put you up there.


We're hoping to have a French language pack for the public beta out in a few days :)

Owdy

Finnish is done http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=7193.0 You can put that in download area. Part of help file isnt translated, but i wont translate it because its currently under rewrite :)
Former Lead Support Specialist

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Peter Duggan

Quote from: ivogomes on March 20, 2004, 09:41:51 AM
So you mean that the current help file is going to be replaced?

I'm not touching the contextual help ATM, but I'm completely rewriting the stuff that's associated with the help button, which basically means everything that looks like this:


/* For the help sections, translate like so...
$txt['help_section_blah'] = array(
array( <-- this is a new section!
'name' => TRANSLATE THIS PART (if it is there.),
'anchor' => TRANSLATE THIS TOO (if it is there...),
'text' => TRANSLATE ALL OF THIS!
),
so on.
); */


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If so, should I translate this one or wait for the new one?

Not easy to give a straight answer because, while I'd like to see the new user help out ASAP, it's not likely to be finished for a week or two yet because:

1. There's a lot more of it!
2. So we're looking at separating it from the contextual help altogether...
3. So I'm also working on a new format for the files that you'll be given for this particular section.

bostasp

I've told the folks doing the French translation not to translate the Help yet, since you're re-writing it, and SMF is still in beta :)


Owdy

How about that translators team and board? :)
It would be nice to know advance what strings are changed in new versions etc etc.
Former Lead Support Specialist

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bostasp

Quote from: Owdy on March 20, 2004, 12:27:20 PM
How about that translators team and board? :)
It would be nice to know advance what strings are changed in new versions etc etc.

Yeah, it would :)
I'd like to be able to put them on the download page as soon as I've checked them through too.

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Peter Duggan

March 21, 2004, 07:13:54 PM #29 Last Edit: March 31, 2004, 04:44:43 PM by Peter Duggan
Quote from: Peter Duggan on March 20, 2004, 10:41:07 AM
So I'm also working on a new format for the files that you'll be given for this particular section.

Thought I might post a few snippets of the new stuff for you all to see.

What we're planning to do is to give you XML files to translate for the user help, then transforming these through XSLT to generate straight XHTML for the distributions.

So hopefully this comment should be self-explanatory:

<!-- Don't translate tags or attributes -->

When applied to stuff like this:

Code removed by Peter Duggan 2004-03-31 because that bit's now being done in a far more elegant manner!

But some further instructions have been included as attributes where they help to clarify things:

<bbc-help>
<bbc-name>Bold</bbc-name>
<bbc-button translate="no">bold</bbc-button>
<bbc-code>[b]bold[/b]</bbc-code>
<html-open translate="no"><![CDATA[<b>]]></html-open>
<html-output>bold</html-output>
<html-close translate="no"><![CDATA[</b>]]></html-close>
<bbc-comments>*</bbc-comments>
</bbc-help>
<bbc-help>
<bbc-name>Italicize</bbc-name>
<bbc-button translate="no">italicize</bbc-button>
<bbc-code>[i]italicize[/i]</bbc-code>
<html-open translate="no"><![CDATA[<i>]]></html-open>
<html-output>italicize</html-output>
<html-close translate="no"><![CDATA[</i>]]></html-close>
<bbc-comments>*</bbc-comments>
</bbc-help>


And the only other thing I'd like to add just now is that a text editor with appropriate syntax highlighting should make the job really quite straightforward if you've got one!

CapriSire

Does coding knowlege required to do translation? i know a little bit of coding, but not much, but i'd still like to help. I can do Traditional Chinese. thanks

Peter Duggan

March 22, 2004, 11:28:56 AM #31 Last Edit: March 31, 2004, 04:47:45 PM by Peter Duggan
While translation doesn't involve any coding as such, it does require enough knowledge to know what to translate and what to leave...

So it doesn't really matter whether you're translating this:

array(
'name' => 'BBC',
'anchor' => 'code',
'text' => '
For obvious reasons standard HTML code cannot be used in posts. Instead SMF allows the use of SMF Bulletin Board Code (BBC) in posts. BBC is similar to HTML, but safe and standardized for bulletin board use.<br />
<br />
<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" align="center" class="table">
<tr>
<th width="320">Type This</th>
<th width="20">&nbsp;</th>
<th>For This</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td><b>[hr]</b></td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td><hr width="40%" size="1" /></td>
</tr>


Or this:

<section ref="references">
<secheading>References</secheading>
<subsection ref="bbcref">
<subheading>SMF Bulletin Board Code</subheading>
<para>The buttons shown belong to the SMF default theme and may differ from forum to forum.</para>
<bbc-reference>
<bbc-heading>
<header-name>Tag Name</header-name>
<header-button>Button</header-button>
<header-code>Code</header-code>
<header-output>Output</header-output>
<header-comments>Comments</header-comments>
</bbc-heading>
<bbc-help>
<bbc-name>Bold</bbc-name>
<bbc-button translate="no">bold</bbc-button>
<bbc-code>[b]bold[/b]</bbc-code>
<html-open translate="no"><![CDATA[<b>]]></html-open>
<html-output>bold</html-output>
<html-close translate="no"><![CDATA[</b>]]></html-close>
<bbc-comments>*</bbc-comments>
</bbc-help>


The important thing's simply being able to distinguish code from text! :)

bostasp

Quote from: CapriSire on March 22, 2004, 03:09:34 AM
Does coding knowlege required to do translation? i know a little bit of coding, but not much, but i'd still like to help. I can do Traditional Chinese. thanks

Nope, you don't need coding knowledge, but a little bit helps :)

CapriSire

then i should be able to do it
am i the only one that wants to do traditional chinese?

Tomer

Hebrew will be done in less then a week, I hope. :)

philtre


bostasp

I apologise that I haven't done much in regards to languages over the past couple of days. If you look at first post, then you'll notice I've put up the Finnish, French, German, Portuguese and Spanish language packs that I have. Anyone currently translating, please take a peak at these to see how they've been done :)

Owdy

Former Lead Support Specialist

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jami

March 27, 2004, 06:54:01 PM #38 Last Edit: March 27, 2004, 06:55:36 PM by jami
today i've sended to bostasp a mail with the files and a PM for the italian language... and now ?

bostasp

Quote from: Owdy on March 27, 2004, 06:52:08 PM
I have done some fixes lately, you allways see update date in red http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=7193.0
You PMed earlier this week, that one's up.

Quote from: jami on March 27, 2004, 06:54:01 PM
today i've sended to bostasp a mail with the files and a PM for the italian language... and now ?
Please read the guildlines I'm posting in the first post of this thread


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