General support topic for Aeva Media (Latest release: July 28, 2010)

Started by Nao 尚, October 14, 2007, 04:28:15 PM

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ricky,

yes... you would have to manually add the code into index.template.php
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can please some one give me a download url for the dutch UTF-8 php file. can't find it
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BTW, AeMe is a paid mod now, but includes some scripts which a free only for non-commercial use.

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Quote from: Soulmaster on August 02, 2010, 04:51:02 AM
can please some one give me a download url for the dutch UTF-8 php file. can't find it
It's up to the Dutch translator (if any) to upload it to the Translations area.

Quote from: Ricky6039 on August 01, 2010, 12:49:15 PM
I would like to know if there is a way to put like random pics on your forumhome say like in the footer
There are approximately 3658 topics where the code for this has been posted.

Quote from: winky100 on July 31, 2010, 04:39:29 PM
Is there a way to embed a video in the description for a category? I would like the video player to be visible on the home page.
As long as the auto-embedder is enabled, it's a no-brainer. You just post the URL.
Or, you use the SMG tag and you post the video in the gallery.

Quote from: KahneFan on July 31, 2010, 01:10:04 AM
Nao; I know it's kind of useless to offer suggestions at this point. BUT :-)

It would be nice if there was a simple "switch" to be able to turn the ratings system off/on and same for the comment system. Not just in the permissions.
I don't see what's wrong with the permissions?

Quote from: digger on August 02, 2010, 04:36:08 PM
BTW, AeMe is a paid mod now, but includes some scripts which a free only for non-commercial use.
"Some"? I can only think of Highslide, and I can replace it with something else at any time.

Also, the only thing that is commercial in AeMe2 is the extra code that isn't in AeMe1. Which doesn't include Highslide, obviously.
See SMF Gallery? The free version doesn't have Highslide. It's a bonus for paid users. So logically it has to be licensed. But if you want Aeva Media with Highslide support, you don't have to pay.

Quote from: Dismal Shadow on July 30, 2010, 06:18:35 PM
Quote from: Kcmartz on July 30, 2010, 06:17:57 PM
I cannot afford to pay for stuff for my site. I might switch to vB once I am done a client's website. (might)
vB isn't free either. Get a life.  ::)
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Quote from: BYUFanatic on July 30, 2010, 05:23:03 PM
No, I'm not asking that I can embed from one SMF forum to another SMF forum. What I'm asking for is simply that there is a field displayed below the video that gives the literal URL of the video on the server.
Err... I believe you just need to replace "sa=media" with "sa=item" in the URL.
A direct link to the direct file will only give you an encrypted filename with no extension.

QuoteMy reason for asking for this feature is that I use Moodle for my students to do homework, assignments, quizzes, etc. Moodle does not have any kind of organized gallery for videos. However, you can embed videos by simply inserting the direct URL. Give me the URL and I'm happy.

By "converted" I mean that I uploaded a file named (for example) "video.flv" Aeva Media will save it on my server as "video__flvfa31c26e71f327eb5b9aa083abf10b87_extflv".
Yes, and there's really no way around for now. Would take a long time to change that system, and not for the better.

Quote from: tfs on July 30, 2010, 04:56:11 PM
I merely suggested that begging would get the cash faster than doing nothing.  Trying to lay guilt trips on people only makes them want to escape.  I'd much rather pay Nao for good software than chase him away.
The only risk they take is that I'll get bored with the stupid comments like "you owe us Aeva Media for free forever, get to work you rascal", then I'll stop visiting this topic, and will only provide support on http://aeva.noisen.com ...
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digger

Quote from: Nao on August 02, 2010, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: digger on August 02, 2010, 04:36:08 PM
BTW, AeMe is a paid mod now, but includes some scripts which a free only for non-commercial use.
"Some"? I can only think of Highslide, and I can replace it with something else at any time.
JWPlayer too.

Quote from: Nao on August 02, 2010, 05:35:05 PM
Also, the only thing that is commercial in AeMe2 is the extra code that isn't in AeMe1. Which doesn't include Highslide, obviously.
See SMF Gallery? The free version doesn't have Highslide. It's a bonus for paid users. So logically it has to be licensed.
AeMe and SMF Gallery Pro already violate Highslide licence conditions.

QuoteRedistribution

You are allowed to distribute Highslide JS with non-commercial packages given that you fulfill two conditions:
Emphasize to your users that Highslide JS is not free for commercial use. You can do this on your download page or when your users activate Highslide in your application.
Provide a link back to this web page in the same location.

~DS~

I don't think AeMe's highslide is non-comercial but a paid product. The Redistribution states:
QuoteRedistribution

You are allowed to distribute Highslide JS with non-commercial packages given that you fulfill two conditions:
Emphasize to your users that Highslide JS is not free for commercial use. You can do this on your download page or when your users activate Highslide in your application.
Provide a link back to this web page in the same location.
See in bold, you are given two conditions. Therefore I believe AeMe uses commercial license...I could be wrong tho...
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Nao 尚

digger, I'm not sure what are you trying to do exactly? Make me revert to a free license for AeMe2? That's not going to happen. (between you and I, I fear my girl's reaction more than anyone else's, really. Ahem.)
The worst that could happen is I get annoyed and stop working on AeMe at all. The exact reason I went commercial is *I don't want to help the popularity of the SMF platform any further, when the team wouldn't recognize the influence I had on it*. So, the exact thing I'm selling right now is *everything I'm doing from now on, including new code and support*. Not stuff I made in the past. That stuff remains free for everyone to enjoy. Highslide and JWPlayer integration was done in the past, so I'm not selling these obviously. You can use them forever on your website with AeMe 1.3a. (Or a later 1.3x version.)

At best (?), what you could achieve is force me to make AeMe2 users install AeMe1, and then distribute AeMe2 as an add-on which will simply overwrite the files in AeMe1. That way, I'm legally safe (I'm only selling an unrelated plugin), and the result is, guess what, exactly the same. I don't like bull******ting people. Exploiting legal loopholes is silly. I hated having to publish one of my files as LGPL just so I could link it to GPL contents (exifixer, getID3). Do I have to do it again?
And finally -- if the respective authors want me to give up on their software, they'll lose a partner that helped popularize their platforms. JWPlayer can easily be replaced with Flow. And Highslide has plenty of alternatives, fancybox for instance. See what I mean?
I will not make any deals with you. I've resigned. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered.

Aeva Media rocks your life.

Tair

Agree with digger.

Make 2.0 Free. Just gallery + embending. Nothing else.
and make 2.0 Paid version with all these plugins (when you fix all these legal issues). And develop both - it won't so difficult - as now you receive profit. After people will start back to respect you.

But as for now it just looks like you decided to grab abit of profit.
P.s. as i remember you took somebody free project and recoded and after merged...looks silly, may be wrong though..

MultiformeIngegno

Nao, I think that there will be no problems or legal issues!! You're not a company or a big society, you're only distributing a paid-version of a mod for smf! I don't think that Highslide or the other player will ever complain this situation!!!

Don't worry and don't feed this "quarrel"!! ;)
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Quote from: Nao on August 02, 2010, 06:41:57 PM
digger, I'm not sure what are you trying to do exactly? Make me revert to a free license for AeMe2? That's not going to happen.
It doesn't matter to me. I already have purchased AeMe2. It's your business.

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Exploiting legal loopholes is silly.
Highslide have two conditions for non-commercial redistribution. AeMe1 violate they.
Highslide may be redistributed only with non-commercial packages. AeMe2 violate this.

It's a clear conditions.

YogiBear

I agree, MultiformeIngegno. 1.3x is still free and if it's not good enough then look for something else. No wonder Nao gets fed up!

It's called being a victim of your own success.

Let us keep this thread for support instead of sniping or oneupmanship.
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Quote from: Nao on July 30, 2010, 09:11:14 AM@KahneFan> Yes, it's in the permissions.

For some reason I'm drawing a blank on where I can turn this off in the permissions now.

As to why I would like to disable all together, and I was going to test this until the above happened :-), if ratings are turned off per profile, do the previously rated items lose their stars or do the previously rated items still show ratings? I would like to be able to turn the stars/ratings off to where no one even knows/knew they were there. (same with the comments)
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I'm currently using version 1.3a on a default theme 1.1.11. My issue is that whenever I try to paste and image url  in the post box when adding a new pic. I get this error.

You haven't specified a file to upload. Or maybe you tried to upload a file too large for the server to handle?

I have to actually save the pic to my pc and use the browse option.

Also I've gone over my permissions a few times and I can't figure out why my members can't comment on pics. I have it set for them to read and write. What am I missing?


ETA: I almost forgot I'm having this issue as well.

"1. If I upload an album icon to replace a previous one that previous one is still showing in the album itself and if I try to upload yet another then the icon within the album replicates."
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Quote from: Midnitelove on August 03, 2010, 01:54:49 AM
ETA: I almost forgot I'm having this issue as well.

"1. If I upload an album icon to replace a previous one that previous one is still showing in the album itself and if I try to upload yet another then the icon within the album replicates."

After replacing the icon, you almost always need to clear your cache. You could also press F5 (several times?) to refresh.

Nao 尚

This will hopefully be my final message on the subject of AeMe 2.0 vs AeMe 1.3a. Please everyone, help me moderate this board so I can spend more time working on v2.0 than replying here :) For instance, you can bookmark this message and post links to it whenever someone complains again.

BTW, a couple of days ago I modified my sticky Resignation announcement topic (it's in this very board) to turn it into an FAQ. Most of the questions about the philosophical differences between 1.3a and 2.0 are already addressed over there. Hopefully more people will notice the topic in the future. Maybe I should put part of this post into the FAQ, but I want to keep it short & simple as much as possible.

Quote from: Tair on August 02, 2010, 06:53:45 PM
Agree with digger.
Ah, just give it up and go create an anti-AeMe Facebook group, will you?

Just as a reminder for everyone who's unsure about the change:

I announced back in late March (that is, over 4 months ago) that I was putting an end to the development of Aeva Media. I only released bug fixes and such, but would no longer add new features to it. The ONLY difference between that day and now, is that now I'm back on track, only for a select number of people who love the software enough to contribute to its development. If you don't want to pay for it, you don't have to. You can still keep using the version that, up until a week ago, was still the very final version I would ever have released of Aeva Media -- the 1.3 branch. It is still free, will remain so, and will get a few bug fixes, and critical security updates in case any problem is found in the future. Which is more than I originally promised.

Any further complaints that don't take my reminder into account will be ignored/mocked/reported/whatever you can imagine.

QuoteMake 2.0 Free. Just gallery + embending. Nothing else.
Just the gallery and embedding? It's called 1.3a...

Very oddly, no one (no one!) ever asked me to release the Foxy! add-on for free... And you know what? Right now, v2.0 is simply Aeva Media 1.3a + the Foxy! add-on. It's exactly the same, only rebranded. I'm currently working on several new features at the same time, so the next update will have more than that, but basically, this is exactly the same as if I was releasing new major updates for Foxy!, rather than Aeva Media. The only difference is that I'm now putting them directly into the Aeva Media codebase, rather than in an external file, because it makes it easier for me to add improvements everywhere without having to add 'hooks' into my code.
(BTW, I think I'll be removing the hooks from the next update of 1.3a, because there's no point in keeping them when there's now a proper implementation in 2.0 at the exact same price... Current Foxy! customers can freely use AeMe 2.0 and thus are encouraged to upgrade from 1.3a to 2.0)

Quoteand make 2.0 Paid version with all these plugins (when you fix all these legal issues).
That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. You mean removing Highslide and JWPlayer from the free version? Who would use such a version anyway? Not only would that be insulting to my users, but there is absolutely no sane reason for doing this. Just because SMF Gallery sells Highslide support for $50 and video storage support for an extra $30 (and I'm not even sure it provides a local Flash player for these?), doesn't mean Aeva Media has to follow suit. vbgamer45 has got his own philosophy. I've got mine. Try both and then determine which you prefer.

QuoteAnd develop both - it won't so difficult - as now you receive profit.
"Profit" is when you make a living off something. Here, it's barely paying for the cigarettes I smoke thanks to the stress-inducing Aeva Media. :P

Really, I'm not in here for profit. I would have joined a web agency otherwise, if only for my PHP, Javascript, MySQL and design skills. Instead, I chose to spend the last 3 years working on SMF, Aeva and SMG/Aeva Media. Don't talk to me about profit.

QuoteAfter people will start back to respect you.
I don't care getting respect from people who don't respect my position in the first place.
There are many, many people here who understand what I've been through, and who are very supportive. Without them, I wouldn't have Aeva Media into a commercial package. I wouldn't be working on v2.0. I would have actually removed all of my mods and told the SMF community to get stuffed. Thankfully, most community members really are, unlike you, appreciative. And that's what matters to me.

QuoteBut as for now it just looks like you decided to grab abit of profit.
And you're trying to save $20, I got it, I got it. ???

QuoteP.s. as i remember you took somebody free project and recoded and after merged...looks silly, may be wrong though..
Yes and no. I'll address this once and for all, because I already discussed this with a team member by PM and I feel I need to address these issues.

AEVAC (before I renamed it to just Aeva) was a free project by Karl Benson, who gave it up over 2 years ago when he became a SMF developer. He offered me to take over it (even though I didn't even use it on my website!), I liked the challenge and I promised that I would keep it available for free. It still is available for free ("Aeva Lite") as well as integrated into Aeva Media 1.3a. Still, I never promised my NEW code would be free.
Karl gave up on the mod because of a lack of interest and time. If he hadn't given it to me, someone else would have taken over, and then maybe released a few compatibility fixes for new versions of SMF, and would have given it up to someone else after realizing the amount of work needed to fix bugs and maintain the sitelist. Karl's YouTube BBCode mod was a much, much simpler mod. It was given to someone, who gave it to someone, who gave it to Runic, who gave it to me. No one wanted to maintain it, and it's a hundred times simpler to maintain than AEVAC ever was. See what I mean? So I took over YTBBC, tried to update it, and then realized it sucked, and what was important was not to make it better, but to educate its users into upgrading to Aeva Lite. That's what I did.
In case you don't know, when Karl gave up work on AEVAC, it was full of little bugs that were impossibly hard to fix. Even Karl, a very good programmer, was at a loss. I spent several days learning the intricacies of regular expressions, and then devised a fix that proved solid -- even more solid, actually, than existing solutions I could find online. It's one of the bug fixes I'm most proud of in my life. Then I devised the automatical sitelist update system, which has been very successful because it basically kept admins from having to systematically checking for updates themselves. I don't have to prove how much of my sweat went into Aeva. Just ask Karl about it now. He'll tell you about what I brought to Aeva, and how I've earned the right to sell new code. (Heck, potential sitelist updates are still going be free for everyone!)

Now ask Dragooon about SMF Media Gallery, he'll say the same, except that instead of working on several hundred lines of code of a beautiful complexity full of geeky techniques, I've been contributing about tens of thousands, with an incredible number of features to implement, something so boring to do that no one in their right mind would ever make it for free (except, of course, an Indian wizkid and a pestering old geezer from France.) I've been the sole maintainer of that codebase for over a year, too.

Now, I think I've done enough volunteer work on both of these projects to justify selling any further updates I do to them.
I will not make any deals with you. I've resigned. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered.

Aeva Media rocks your life.

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It's very good to read a little of your history, and to read how much you've actually put forth in your time here.
Most users installing huge mods, do not/cannot comprehend the amount of knowledge and time put into them, and complain when their cries for "more" go unanswered.
Nowhere else will you receive such a code for free afaik.
I'm a firm believer in mods being free, but you have provided us with a free version which exceeded the expectations of aevac, and you are now producing what you'd call a pro version, or "paid" as is the preferred term.
Many authors here at smf do this, but yet this is the only thread in which I see soo many condemning replies.
For as long as you keep bringing us the goods, I for one will be willing to help pay for your next pack of smokes ;)

btw, in all my time here, this is the only mod I've been interested in enough to pay for.

Thanks for your sweat Nao :)
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MultiformeIngegno

Thanks for your post, Nao.
I think there's no need for other words, you said everything! :)
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